Softening Into Alignment with Renee Green

In this episode of Healers Talk Healing from Miracles Ultimate Wellness Resources, Lynne Herod-DeVerges and Nina Ganguli are joined by Renee Green for a gentle and grounding conversation about mindful movement, breath, body awareness, and learning how to soften into alignment.

Renee shares a heart-centered approach to yoga and healing that invites us to stop forcing, slow down, and begin listening to what the body is trying to communicate.

Together, they explore how tension, fatigue, and disconnection can be signs that we are pushing too hard — and how practices like Hatha yoga, mindful breathing, and intentional movement can help us return to presence, ease, and self-trust.

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Transcript

Welcoming Renee And Slowing Down

SPEAKER_04 0:03

Before we begin, we're so excited to introduce today's guest, Renee Green. Renee brings such a grounded, heart-centered approach to healing through mindful movement, breath, and body awareness. In this conversation, we explore what it means to soften, to slow down, to reconnect with the body in a way that feels supportive instead of forced. So if you've been feeling tired, uh tense, or you feel like you've been pushing yourself too hard, this episode is for you. So it's an invitation to pause, to breathe, and to listen a little more deeply. So let's get into it.

SPEAKER_01 0:44

Welcome to Healers Talk Healing, the podcast from Miracles Ultimate Wellness Resources. I'm Lynn Herrod Diverges.

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And I'm Nina Gingly.

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Each episode brings you inspiring conversations, practical wisdom, and fresh perspectives on healing and personal transformation.

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Our goal is simple to help you learn, experience, and connect in ways that support your unique journey. Thank you for being here. And let's dive into today's conversation. Oh

Series Plan And July Workshop

SPEAKER_04 1:13

my gosh, I am super excited to start this next amazing series with Renee and our three series until we get to the workshop in July. And as everyone knows, or maybe they don't, but it's the third Sunday of every month. And yeah, I'm old school. I'm pulling it out so I remember what the date is offhand. We are doing July the 19th. So listen in, get to know us a little better. Let's talk about what Renee does and walk the journey with us over the next three podcasts and then a live experience with Renee, which is the thing that's the most exciting, I think. Not that these are not exciting, but the most exciting is to be able to connect with you sort of one-on-one in a live situation where we can ask questions, where we can come together. So I'm excited without further ado. You know, we've been chatting a little bit. And you know, we just want to get to

Renee’s Before Yoga Turning Point

SPEAKER_04 2:24

know you from the place of, you know, what's your journey been like? I'm sure it's been a bit of a a roller coaster, as all of us have.

SPEAKER_01 2:36

And and that could include life before yoga and life now with it.

SPEAKER_02 2:44

So for me, I mean, it's it has been, you know, that that road. Um, life before yoga was completely 100% different than life with yoga. Um, I I was, I'm gonna say it, it's kind of a secret, but I was an off-road racer. Um and I um drove Jeeps up the side of a hill. Um and and wow, I was all about um being seen and doing it the best and and and being being what everybody thought I should be. Um I was uh presented and I was the presenter. Um and it was it was, you know, it was a very big party life. And it was, you know, being being the trophy wife, that's what I was. Um and um I just there came that breaking point where I just I knew that this wasn't the life I wanted my daughter to lead. Um, as much as I love the outdoors and I wanted her to have all these things, I didn't want her to have all the baggage that came with it. Um and when I saw her following in my footsteps at 10 years old doing the things I did to hide the things I didn't want to do, it was just such an eye-opener for me. And I had to make that change and I didn't know what it was gonna look like or what it was gonna be, but I um I got a divorce. I took my kid and my dog and my car and away I went. And um somehow I I found this little yoga studio. Um, I was uh doing um, I I joined a family that was doing like a private practice and I went in and I was just in my own little space. I I mean it was well, it was a big room and there were other people there, but I was in this this space and I learned to feel inside of me, and

The First Time Feeling Within

SPEAKER_02 5:00

it was just the most exciting thing. I I don't think I ever remembered feeling like that before, not as a kid, not not doing anything. I just I was there for me in me, and it was just this presence and I I just didn't know what to do with it. And and getting put, I was being put into poses, um, and the alignment that came into my body to feel that that presence, that alignment, that awareness, that listening to myself was just that was it. That was the ticket. I had no idea what I was gonna do with it, but that was where I wanted to be.

SPEAKER_04 5:44

That is that's you're speaking, and I'm hearing like one of my girlfriends saying something similar about being with me, me thinking also the same thing. It's funny that you're talking about this because I've been thinking to myself, I've haven't yet been fully present to being inside my own body. You know, for me, my journey was always like my life, my value, my worth was for someone else, not for

From Performing To Belonging In Body

SPEAKER_04 6:17

self. And you know, been groomed my my child in my childhood into my early 20s, that that was my role. Like you're here because I need you, so whoever it is, need you to be something for me. And then not knowing what that is, and then taking all this. I'm gonna say all this time, it feels like all this time. Maybe it's a sh no, but there's no timeline. I understand that. But now, as you're saying this, I'm like, yeah, that's where I'm at now. It's like trying to get to know who I am, what my body is for me, that it's like my body, not someone else's body as a mother, a wife, a daughter, a friend, or you know, none of that, that it's for me. And I'm there's a bit of this, like, you know, muscle memory, so it's kind of gooey and sticky, and I'm excited about the change. And then part of me is like, this is so different, it's so different, and my natural thoughts automatically will go to my old way of thinking, and those, you know, not being able to interrupt the pattern. So, how did getting you know, showing up at that first practice? How did you or what happened to make you realize like, oh, this is what it feels like to be in my body?

SPEAKER_02 7:38

You know, that's that's really interesting because I I didn't know that's what I was feeling at the moment. It was just something at that moment euphoric. It was just something I had no memory of ever feeling before. And, you know, I'd always been taught like you, harder, better, faster, you know, to to get it done in the way that looks the best. Um, make sure your hair and makeup are done, you know, all of all of the things. And to have that feeling for me, it was just euphoric. It was something I just didn't know. I was in a in a space where I didn't need to be a presenter for anybody. I didn't need to show myself to anybody but me. You know, the my my daughter and and her friends were in the in the class on their side of the the room, and um some friends of mine were, and everybody was in their space and just on my mat. There was just this, it was all for me, about me, within me. And it was just yeah, it was just that feeling.

SPEAKER_01 8:48

I I find that amazing, and as both of you have been sharing, uh it takes me back to my experience first, thinking about the body, and like you said, experiencing your body for you, being in you. And my experience, first of all, with the body is I've been a dancer since five years old. Dancing, however, was always structured in a way that was very different from what you're describing because it was more performative. The way I felt was completely free to express myself in an environment that I grew up in that was very limited and stifling, where I couldn't be a child, the be seen but not heard. Oh no, we girls don't wear pants, they wear dresses, even when you go out and play. And that there were all these rules and regulations. I won't go into the reasons, but dance was freedom, and that was the expression of it. As I moved out of dance in my mid-20s, I discovered so many other things that were taking place. And what Nina was saying, yes, everything was always about someone else. Make sure that you had make a good impression. You have to be right for you know the world. You want to represent the family, you've got to take care of the the siblings, and you've got to take care of the job, and you've got to take care of, take care of, take care of. So being introduced to yoga and being introduced to a different way of movement, I have to admit, even though I danced all those years on a regular, almost daily basis and performed a lot, yoga was a lot more challenging than dancing. Yet it was a different connection for me in terms of my body. And it was more, it's more of a um, I'm gonna meditative. It's it is as you were saying, being in your own space.

SPEAKER_02 11:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:26

Whereas with dance, it was, you know, about the interaction with everyone else and not necessarily being just in your own space.

SPEAKER_03 11:35

Right.

SPEAKER_01 11:36

Um, so anyway, I find that yoga, and especially as we continue to grow and expand, not only in our consciousness, but physically, being able to do at least the yoga I call stretching yoga. I don't know what the technical name is, but it's when you can stretch. And um uh as a way to stay limber, I think makes a huge difference. So it helps me also then go back to those memories of when I was younger and more limber. I haven't quite gotten the way I was when I was back in those days, back in I always say the last century, but um uh still working to get there. And and it's it's it is amazing. So from where you were before yoga to where you are now, what have you discovered about yourself and this entire process that has really expanded, I would say, your world and yourself?

Breath Awareness And Letting Go

SPEAKER_02 12:47

You know, one of the one of the things is like what you just said, you know, you're um you're trying to get back to where you were. But one of the great things about yoga is it doesn't matter where you were, it doesn't even matter where you want to go, but it it's about where you are right now. It's about bringing that awareness and finding that internal comfort with where you are right now, that that breath awareness, that nervous system awareness, when you can feel that something bubbling up inside of you, and you can calm that just by your breath work, just by going onto your mat to move in a couple of different poses, because you know, we hold so much tension in our bodies that when we move into a pose and we can settle into it, we can allow that that stress to release from those joints. You know, we have we have you know people who who come in who you know, we will just say can't touch your toes or can't hold your hands over your head or whatever it is, but it's it's because they are holding on to so much, and it's finding that place to release, you know, when you when you go through um psychology and different things like that, they want you to talk it out and be it out and know what it is and all of those things, but in yoga, you can just let it go. You don't have to know what it is, where it came from, or why it's there. You can just allow that softness to occur by listening into your body by being ready to let that go.

SPEAKER_01 14:41

Yes, I I love that. I love that. It's how can I share this? Everything you've said I totally get, understand, but haven't come into the full aspect of experiencing experiencing it within myself because I'm still in my head rather than in my body. That's what I that's what I'm discovering at this point. I'm I'm more in my head than in my body. And I just mentioned I was more in the past in terms of what stretching meant, because that's how I perceive it, right? As opposed to what it really is. And so I will continue because as you describe it, I'm like, oh yeah, yeah, I want to let go, yeah, I want to let go. Moving into those spaces.

SPEAKER_02 15:40

Yeah, it's it's about listening, listening inside and noticing what your body is telling you. You know, sometimes it's telling you that it you've pushed hard enough and and let's let's hang out here for a bit. Um, I'm not ready to expand, or because our monkey minds are in the way, we're not ready to let that go. You know, it's but it's noticing even that, and that awareness within your body will help you move into that awareness to where you can respond and let it go, not forcing it, but allowing it.

SPEAKER_01 16:19

That makes sense. That makes sense. I because I often have my dance instructors and and choreographers, you know, saying, This is how you're supposed to do it, and that's how you're supposed to do it. And and my body is like, but I wrote that. No, that's like, ah, but you still push through and do it anyway. So this is great. This is a very different orientation in terms of what it means to connect with your body, and in many ways, um I'm starting to see and and understand, and I think some others out there as well, that we we do what we do, whether it's athletic or even meditative, but we've still never really been fully taught how to listen to our own bodies. That's the key. It's just, you know, the it's almost as if we treat the body like an instrument that's supposed to be used and and it's tough and it can do all these things, and that's how you get through life. But it's listening to the body that I think is actually profound. We we may know it, but it's a very profound concept.

SPEAKER_02 17:40

And listening instead of telling.

SPEAKER_04 17:43

Ah that that wow, yeah. We tend to tell our body. I mean, it's probably why we also get injuries, is because we're not listening. Uh, and I was you know, there's so many different ways of connecting to one's body. There's tons of different ways, I guess, out there. And did you try anything else before you hit the mat?

SPEAKER_02 18:13

Um, I I actually do a meditative practice uh before and after my practices um with breathwork, um, with uh Reiki. Um and I I do those those practices before and after, um, just to calm that monkey mind. You know, we we it's really hard to push society out. Um and and to take that moment for yourself is really, really hard. So yes, I do. I have to take the time before and after. Um, otherwise, I you know, I I don't um I don't stop and feel into I I get into the mode of doing

Softness As Power In Daily Life

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instead of being.

SPEAKER_01 18:57

Ah, yes. Yeah. And and that's where I think 99.99% of the world population, we we we have been um uh programmed into the constant doing, and the doing is what gives purpose and meaning and blah la la, all of all of those things rather than just being. And so yoga then, from what I'm hearing you say, is a state of being and also integration, the the body with the mind, right? The emotions releasing, you know, in those ways.

SPEAKER_02 19:40

And those those things that come up during meditation, and sometimes they feel crazy or you still have your monkey mind. Yeah, when you when you practice after that that morning for me, that morning meditation, and I go into practice after that, it really allows those things to integrate within me, whether it's me letting something go or me being creative and going, oh, this is what it feels like for whatever the action may be. Um, and it really allows you that integration time. You know, we it in society, we are taught that I'm gonna say it out loud, that softness is a weakness.

SPEAKER_03 20:23

Right, yes.

SPEAKER_02 20:24

But I but I disagree. This soft, this quiet is a place to increase our awareness, to increase our creativity, our connection, whatever, whatever that connection to Mother Earth, that connection to source, whatever you want to call it, but it really uh that connection to ourself, it's this softness that allows you to have that connection for our bodies to to fully open.

SPEAKER_01 20:53

I I have another uh quick question. You've been practicing yoga for uh a little while now, and I'd like to know. I think our audience would like to know too, what significant aspects, if any, have you noticed in your life as a result of your practice and um how you may go about doing things now just in your daily life or in having raised your your daughter or children and that sort of thing?

SPEAKER_02 21:31

I have to say there's there's a more for me, there's a excuse me, there's a more calm. Um I'm I'm not rushing to do everything that everybody else is doing. I'm sitting back and going, okay, what feels right for when I was raising my children? Um what's right for us as opposed to when I first started. Before I started with yoga, when I would started this mother journey, it was, oh, we have to do this and we have to do that, and we have to do this, and we need to go here and we need to do this. And now it's like, well, you know, what's going to be in our best interest and get us through the day that is enjoyable where we can be present instead of going?

SPEAKER_04 22:25

I was just gonna ask, how has you your I was gonna say your communication, the way you're being, how has that changed with your daughter? Because I know you said, you know, you saw her, she was 10 years old, you saw her, she was emulating a lot of the way you were being without knowing that that's the way you were being. So how did you see the shift as you were shifting?

SPEAKER_02 22:57

You know, it's funny that you say that because just the other day I was thinking how different she is. And when I made the shift, luckily she was young enough that um she just automatically made the shift because I changed, my energy changed. So what she was being raised with changed. You know, she went from, like I was just saying, you have to do, do, do, do to, you know, I think I want pancakes today. You know, the whole mindset just changes. Um, you know, let's let's you know, let's take our our journal outside and and go sit in the garden instead of we need to go to the park so we can see so and so so we can play with so and so. We need a play date for this. Yes. Um it it just it it just allowed her to really blossom into a young human being of all of her own instead of being me.

SPEAKER_01 24:05

Wow. That's beautiful. Wow, and and wow, parenting 101 right here, right?

SPEAKER_04 24:14

Yeah, I think giving her that not only modeling, but then you know, you learn about having space and then imparting that that space and having her just be who she is, and you know, the conversation keeps me coming back to the saying that uh when I had taken a course that we walk, you know, we call ourselves human beings, but really what we exemplify is human doings, you know. We've yes, we've been misnamed, you know, human, you know, and maybe not misnamed, but we walk inside of the doing and you know, find it challenging. I would say for those who most people I've spoken

Perfectionism And Comparing On The Mat

SPEAKER_04 25:01

to to be in the being, it's uncomfortable. It really is. Like when I'm it's been a long time since I've been on the mat regularly. Now I'm uh you know, I'm still a perfectionist inside here. And you know, it is challenging to get to the mat. And and I know it's a practice, it's called a yoga practice. I get it, I know that, but there's so I find the challenge in not being perfect on the mat. And I'm just gonna say it. I I find it challenging when I when I you know, I will start looking around. I'm like, look at that person, they could do this, look at that person, they could do this, and I'm just like, you can't even keep like I can't do the downward dog long enough. I need to fidget or move, or you know, it's just moving sometimes from downward dog and pushing your leg forward. And I I have a challenge I always had, whether I was fit or not fit, whether I was thin or not thin, my body just doesn't move that way. How have you been able to get over that pump? Because you said you were in that world, they're like, it has to be perfect in that. Like, how did that change? Or when when was that moment where you're like, oh, it doesn't have to be perfect anymore?

SPEAKER_02 26:21

It was it, I wouldn't say it was a process. Uh, and it was one, you know, coming coming within myself, and then you I had to go through the process of learning where I was in that moment and being okay with where I was in that moment. It's okay to fidget and downward facing dog. It's okay to put my knees down and then pull my foot forward. I don't have to do that step forward like everybody else because my body's not there. Or maybe my body is there and the person next to me is trying to emulate me. I don't want that. I want them to be where their body is, where it is inside. What feels right? You have to find that that quiet in you to be okay with where you are today. Because your pose, your downward-facing dog, maybe your knees are bent, so your spine is longer. Maybe your heels don't touch the ground, and that's where your body is today. Tomorrow it may be different. Tomorrow it may be, you know, your heels are a little closer, or maybe they're a little higher because you did something else. It's about being okay with who you're being right now. You're not doing that.

SPEAKER_01 27:42

Yeah, I'm no, you're talking to all of us, Renee.

SPEAKER_04 27:46

You're talking to all of us, and I'm sure those listening, uh, yes, that yeah, I guess I really think inside of the being, like this we talk about the being, and it's so foreign. Yes, that it's it's foreign, it's a foreign concept, and it's it's kind of getting away from like it's a destination. Yes, because I'm as I'm speaking to you, it's processing, and I'm like, oh, this is the challenge. I still feel being is a destination, yeah. Like it's like, oh, well, when I get to the mat, I've got a be. And then I'm like, how do I be? I'm I you know, all of the chit chatter, and it's just like the first time I remember meditating, I was so uncomfortable. It was like being, I was uncomfortable. I got I actually got very anxious and had to stop meditating because it was too much for my body to be. I didn't know what that was. And it's it's like as an like as an instructor, are you aware of the struggle that's happening when you're you're in the room with the others? And are you aware of like, oh, that that let me see if I can support someone on the

Teaching Realistic Poses With Props

SPEAKER_04 29:04

journey to the being as the instructor? Because you're seeing, you know, Nina looking around being like, how come she's doing it like that? And I'm not being able to do it. Like, does that do you are you addressing that or is are you allowing for uh a conversation or a space? I know you in the practice you don't do it on the room in the room.

SPEAKER_02 29:23

Well, we do do it in the room, absolutely okay.

SPEAKER_04 29:26

I've never heard anyone say anything before.

SPEAKER_02 29:28

Because if it's your struggle, it's really probable that it's somebody else's struggle too. And so, yes, my classes, we definitely open up the room at any time. I don't care if we're in downward dog or in child's pose, if something is feeling uncomfortable, like it needs to release what it is, let's bring it up, let's bring it out because somebody else is probably feeling that way. And for me, the way I the way I do it is to know that these are my struggles too. I I am not perfect, I I am um I'm I'm the the yoga teacher, but I'm really here for suggestions on how you can align within your body when what what it feels right for you. Here's what the shape can look like, but maybe you need four blocks and a strap. You know, maybe you need some some props, maybe you're you're not going into um the triangle pose that the person next to you is going into. Maybe yours is you know just a wide and strong, you know, with a little twist. Your pose is your pose. You get to where your body is today, and tomorrow we'll get to where it is tomorrow.

SPEAKER_03 30:52

I love that.

SPEAKER_01 30:53

Yeah, yeah. I it and as you're speaking, even in my body now, I can feel myself shifting because I'm giving my body permission to be where it is and how it is at that moment, which is exactly what being is with everything as we become more aware. Um, Nina, as you were saying, it feels like a destination. I yes, most people do believe it's a destination. And I was also thinking as you were talking, Renee, you might need props. And how long is that going to take before you get into the perfect pose? You know, the monkey brain starts going, is that gonna be a year, maybe two years? Hmm, if it did it twice a day, you know, all of that stuff goes on, and then the realization came as you were speaking, the practice of yoga and meditation is the practice of just being. And when you are in a place of just being, there is no time

Being Is The Practice Not A Goal

SPEAKER_01 32:03

or space that anything needs to happen. It's just being. So it's it's what I call the true definition of being in your flow. Yes, absolutely. I couldn't, I couldn't have said it better than myself. Yeah, and and so my I I I'm telling you, Renee, this is phenomenal because you know, because I danced for so many years, I had so many injuries and all this stuff, and uh on and off for years, it has been, oh, I need to, you know, lose some weight, and I've got to get back into exercise and I need to be walking more, and maybe I should jog and all of this stuff. I need to, I need to, I need to, okay, I'll do this for a little while, and then well, okay, well, maybe jogging lasted for three days because now I'm exhausted. I'll give my body a break, and oh, I can't go back to it because I still have that tweaked knee and I my back is still bothering me, and oh now I got a headache, and you know, whatever's going on, right? Right, you're shitting on yourself. Yeah, uh yeah, I'm shitting on myself, yes, but in this conversation, it becomes something very different because on some deeper levels, I have been quote unquote afraid to re-injure myself in ways that I have been that have been uncomfortable, will be painful, a lot of different things that you go through. And so I've the mind says, Oh no, we have to protect, we have to protect the body. So we can't do that. We have to protect what's gonna happen here because it's gonna be awful, you know, all of that stuff, and but as you're speaking, it's like it's it's melting away. All of all of that, the the anxiousness around it, all of the um it's gonna be too hard, I can't do it perfectly, I should do it more, how long is it gonna take? When can I reach my goal? That's everything that's outside of just being. So thank you. I'm also thanking my mind and my body for the permission, and which also puts a whole different um perspective and awareness on what yoga really brings to our life in every aspect. It brings us to our life, is really what it does. Wow, okay.

SPEAKER_04 34:56

It's so interesting. Sorry, go ahead, Renee.

SPEAKER_02 35:00

Well, I was just gonna say that it's just that the alignment of yoga isn't about achieving, it's about allowing. And that that is exactly what what you just said, Lynn. And I I just um yeah, thank you. It's it's so wonderful to you know to hear that awareness come through. Thank you for sharing that.

SPEAKER_04 35:25

I am thinking, you know, the three of us, I'm gonna talk about the three of us because of the conversation that we're having and knowing that we are all grounded in performance or have been, right? Needing to get somewhere, someplace, not always being some like being someone to get there, it's the it's this performance-driven mindset that we tend to have, right? Lynn, you're an entrepreneur, you know, they're obviously back somewhere in the background. There is things need you need to get things done, and things need to happen and things need to move. And my question is if someone like us, we're performers,

Nervous System Calm Improves Performance

SPEAKER_04 36:07

now tend to take something like yoga where we can be. Do you think that enhances our performance?

SPEAKER_02 36:15

You took the words right out of my mouth. I thought you were talking, but wait, but yes, absolutely, because you know, we're really in this whole flight or fight all of the time. Yes. And even when we we sit down, we close our eyes, we're like, okay, I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna sit down, I'm gonna breathe for five minutes, you know, we're our monkey mind is still going. So we're never really getting out of that flight or fight. But when we allow our bodies to open up on the mat, when we sit for meditation, when we allow that nervous system to truly, that's the hard part, to truly calm, that's when things happen. Because your creativity starts to flow again, those blocks start to fall off. And oh, you can see what the the you know the the path to the next thing now. So by allowing the nervous system to quiet, by letting go of society, we truly allow for expansion. So I do say that the the women who are are entrepreneurs that are running corporate businesses, who are moms running their children's lives, by stopping and slowing down just that little bit, just one hour, even if you're taking a five-minute meditation a couple of times a day, really stopping allowing the nervous system to calm down, you're really giving yourself the opportunity to flourish and grow.

SPEAKER_04 38:02

Yes. That's great news for all of us performers.

SPEAKER_01 38:05

It is, it is. And when we think when we think about it, I I believe everyone has experience or experiences in their lives, even at little snapshot snapshot moments, snapshot moments, um where when we do just take a moment, like you said, to let the nervous system calm down. You first mentioned creativity, and I'm like, yeah, that's where you know everything just starts moving and coming into place. And oh yes, this is the next thing that needs to happen, and the next thing it again, I think all of us that that happens to, as you were speaking, I'm thinking I was thinking of myself in LA being in the middle of traffic most of the time, and uh your transaction's 10 minutes, but it took you an hour to get there, you know, it's that kind of thing. And um how okay, I gotta get there, gotta get there. I don't have a lot of time. Dog got it, this traffic is crazy. And you're you know, when you in that that heightened space, which creates stress, it's the fight or flight. And what happens? The slowest person on the road always moves in front of you. You move to another lane, and then that person wants to stop because they're not sure where they're going. You know, but when you are just relaxed and just allowing yourself the space to just get there and be present, isn't it amazing how you get there in less time than you thought?

unknown 39:44

Right, right.

SPEAKER_01 39:45

And that that's what I was thinking about what you were saying. I think that's an example of it.

SPEAKER_02 39:50

And I think that every time that car pulls in front of you and slows down, that you move into the next lane and it starts slowing down. That is your cue. That is your cue to go, okay, I'll get there when I get there. And that is when you get there faster.

Traffic As A Cue To Release Control

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Not stressed, ready to be there.

SPEAKER_01 40:15

Yes, yes. Wow, this has been fabulous. Well, I uh Renee, thank you so much. Um you have expanded me in more ways than you know, which you had started have started to already from the classes that I was doing with you. Um it's but this this adds a whole deeper level of of meaning and awareness. It's it goes beyond understanding because it is resonating, you know, in throughout my entire space on every level. And um so just God bless you for what you do and how you're able to bring that forward. I just I I marvel at it and I appreciate it very much.

SPEAKER_04 41:07

Yeah, I really just got Renee that it's you know, a lot of times you go to the gym and they have yoga classes at the gym, or you're going there because many of us are. I'm gonna say many of us, I'm talking about my circle of influence. That's what I mean. That's what I mean by many of us, the people that I know. A lot of times we don't say we're going to a yoga class because we want to learn how to be. Many of us are like, I'm gonna go to power yoga, I'm gonna hot yoga, I'm gonna go this yoga, that yoga, that yoga, so that you know I can get fit, I can get strong, I can stretch. That's the conversation we're having. And today, what I actually got is it's if I were to look at it from it's a place to learn how to connect with myself, how to be, it it wouldn't feel like I had to be perfect. So thank you for that awareness that you know for me, yoga is not about exercise, right? It can be, but it's it's really meant for me to be a

How To Find Renee And Join July

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human being.

SPEAKER_02 42:19

Yes, yes, absolutely. And you know, that is the great thing is that when you find that human being inside, the weight starts to come off, the strength comes in. That's when your body starts to perform when it's happy and it's not in flight or fright all of the time. It's got moments where it can rest and restore, you know, people who are going to the gym and doing all of the things and lifting the weights and all of that. If they're not taking the time to calm their nervous system to really go within, they're not really building sustainable muscle. They might be building momentary muscle, but the minute that they stop, that's gonna that's gonna subside because their body is just doing what it's told to do instead of what it is able to do. Yeah, so thank you, ladies. This has been so much fun. Oh, isn't it awesome?

SPEAKER_01 43:22

Yes, and this and this is just the first episode that we we have so much more to share and to learn and hear from uh from Renee Green and just her um the amazing way she works and helping people to connect with themselves, to heal, to uh really just be. So I would say you teach human beings the beingness of who they are.

SPEAKER_04 43:49

I'll take that. Yeah, okay. Next time you introduce yourself, oh I'm Renee Green. I help human beings be human beings. Oh my gosh, this has been a great conversation. I cannot wait to jump into the next meaty conversation that we're going to have. So if you want to know how to connect with Renee, if you want to have a deeper conversation with her, if you want to know where her next class is going to be and you know have get closer to the human being, connect with her on our website. If you go to the connect spot, you will see that you can click on services and you can look her up. She is there on our site. Also, of course, of course, if you want to experience her, then sign up for the website of the website. Sign up for the workshop. I can speak English. Sign up for the workshop coming in July. We're so thrilled to continue to have these great conversations until the live event. Um, until next time, everyone, bye for now.

SPEAKER_00 45:00

Bye for now. Thank you, Renee. Thank you.

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