Self-Healing Through Wisdom, Love & the Subconscious Mind with Dr. Emmett Miller

What if your reactions, choices, and relationship patterns are being shaped by old subconscious programming?

In this episode of Healers Talk Healing from Miracles Ultimate Wellness Resources, Lynne Herod-DeVerges and Nina Ganguli continue their conversation with Dr. Emmett Miller, a pioneer in mind-body medicine, to explore self-healing through wisdom, love, and the subconscious mind.

Dr. Miller shares how our emotional reactions are often shaped by past experiences, unconscious associations, and old beliefs we may not even realize we are carrying. He explains why we are not always responding to what is happening in the present moment — we may be reacting to something our mind learned long ago.

Together, they explore how deep relaxation, mindfulness, acceptance, love, and inner awareness can help us begin to rewrite those old scripts and return to a deeper sense of peace, connection, and wholeness.

In this episode, you’ll hear about:

• How the subconscious mind influences our daily decisions
• Why old experiences can shape present reactions
• What the “monkey mind” is and how it keeps us stuck
• How relaxation can help reprogram old patterns
• The role of acceptance in self-healing
• Why love may be one of the most powerful healing forces we have

This conversation also includes a beautiful guided inner experience led by Dr. Miller to help listeners connect with peace, love, gratitude, and the present moment.

If you’ve ever wondered why you keep reacting the same way, repeating the same patterns, or struggling to fully feel safe, loved, or present — this episode offers a powerful place to begin.

Join us on June 21 for a special live workshop with Dr. Miller, where he will go deeper and you will experience a shift like no other!

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Transcript

Welcome To Holistic Healing

SPEAKER_01 0:01

Welcome to Healers Talk Healing, the podcast where we gather to explore the art and science of holistic healing, uncovering the secrets to a happier, healthier you. I'm your host, Nina Gangley, and together we will delve into the intriguing world of holistic healing. Delving into the mind-body connection, ancient wisdom, and natural remedies. Get ready for enlightening stories, thought-provoking expert interviews, and practical tips that will empower you to unlock your true potential and embrace a vibrant balance life. Whether you're an experienced wellness enthusiast or simply curious about the power of healing, join us on this exhilarating journey as we share the wisdom insight that can truly transform your life. It's time to learn the voice towards a happier, healthier healing. Without further ado, let's dive into the captivating world of healers and talk healing.

Why Mind-Body Healing Matters

SPEAKER_01 1:01

Welcome back to Healer's Top Healing. We're joined once again by Dr. M. Miller, often called the father of mind-body medicine, whose work has been decades ahead of its time. From creating the first guided imagery meditations in the 1970s to helping people understand how the mind can literally reprogram the body. Dr. Miller has spent his life showing us that healing isn't just physical, it's deeply internal. In this episode, we explore what it really means to heal through wisdom in love. Isn't actually coming from the present moment. It's coming from the pattern. Something that was never missing in the first place. Love something you have to earn. Something that already exists within you. So as you listen, don't just stay in your head. Let yourself feel this one. And if it resonates, if you're ready to go deeper into this kind of work and be supported in it, I invite you to join us in our Lola Seekers membership community. In a space where growth, healing, and real connection happens consistently, not just in moments like this. So let's get into it. So once again, we are back with Dr. Miller. We're so excited to have you back to get into this next session of our conversation about self-healing. And today we'll be talking about self-healing with wisdom and love. And you know, I'm always I love having conversations with you. So to hear your take on self-healing through wisdom and love, you know, just tell us what is actually what does that mean?

Stress As The Hidden Root

SPEAKER_04 3:14

Explain. Explain something.

SPEAKER_02 3:20

What I've discovered, I started out of, as you know, working as a general medical practitioner back in 1970. And within a very short period of time, I realized that most of people's illnesses and dissatisfaction and their sickness and their anxiety and their emotions and their failure and their lack of love come from basically that they're not handling stress very well. And that their feelings, their emotional reactions to things, conscious and unconscious, are behind so many illnesses. So I became interested in focusing on what was what was causing that. And so it turns out that it is possible to deal with kind of like our feelings about the world. I mean, if you ever notice that there are some people that you could just drop them into any situation, a missed airplane flight, a long line, or bad financial news, or COVID. And somehow they're still okay. They find something to enjoy about the situation. They'll connect with someone who otherwise seems distant, and they'll even make you feel better. And you look at them and you think, are they just lucky? Or do they know something that I don't know? Well, here's what's interesting that difference may not have as much to do with the world around as it has to do with what's happening inside. Because what we feel as human beings is not always the truth of what is and go astray. Because our feelings are often the result of automatic reactions of the unconscious part of our mind that causes us to have difficulty with people, with situations. But I've discovered that in many cases, perhaps in most cases, the gut feelings that we have that determine our reactions and relationships are not actually our truest feelings. So for most of us, we meet someone and sometimes you're immediately turned off. Or we meet someone else and we feel an instant sense of warmth, even attraction, and we're not sure why. And we assume this is about them. Well, she's kind of picky, or you know, he's kind of bossy, or can never know what she's feeling, but very often it isn't. And very often we end up failing to recognize that a person that we feel repelled us or is bored is actually someone we find out we can be really good friends with because our deeper values are so aligned. Once we get to know what those deeper values are. We used to see that kind of situation very clearly back in the early days of integration, in which black children were bust to white majority schools. But the kids had a great deal of trouble getting along with each other because of their expectations and the various societal myths that they had been exposed to at home very often. They had no idea these prior exposures were what was creating their animosity. But some of them somehow managed to get over this and develop lifelong friendships. But I've also met many others, black and white, who suffered enormous pains when subjected to that situation. Well, what transformed me and my thinking very on, and what led me into this new way of dealing with things, was that in a deep state of relaxation, it is possible to literally reprogram the subconscious mind, even though it's picked up bad reactions and beliefs along the way.

The Monkey Mind Runs The Show

SPEAKER_02 7:29

I learned that more than 95% of all the decisions that we make every day of our lives are being made by the subconscious levels of the mind. We don't make most of our decisions consciously. They're made unconsciously. And that's the part of us that I call the monkey mind. It's the automatic part of us that is, first of all, responsible for our emotional reactions. First impressions, attitudes, emotional reactions are frequently based on associations formed a long time ago, even outside of our awareness. A look, a gesture can trigger something from the past. And in an instant, we're not responding to what's here now. We're responding to something that we learned somewhere back then that wasn't true. You meet someone you feel uneasy, and later they remind you of someone who embarrassed you. You remember that, huh? Or someone who hurt you. But you didn't realize that when you were busy getting turned off to this person. And a lot of times we never realize what it goes back to, and therefore we're stuck having the same reaction over and over again. And so, in a sense, this kind of reaction be considered as a kind of a personal, a personal prejudice, whether it is prejudice against this kind of car, prejudice against this kind of music, or these clothes, or this hairstyle, or whatever it is. And people can feel fear and distrust and even dislike toward entire groups of people that they've never really met. So it's coming not from experience, but from stories and images, attitudes that they've absorbed along the way. And

Rewriting A Childhood Anxiety Script

SPEAKER_02 9:34

we all have those. So I want to give you an example. I once worked with a fellow who was successful, intelligent, and articulate. But whenever he spoke in meetings in front of a group of people, he would feel these waves of anxiety, and he just couldn't do it. His throat would tighten, his voice would falter, and afterward he would criticize himself. Now, on the surface, there's no reason why this guy should feel that way. He's a great speaker. So, in a deeply relaxed state, we allowed his mind to go back, and what emerged was a memory when he was about seven years old, standing in the classroom trying to ask, answer a question. A few children begin to laugh at him, and then a few more join in, and they're laughing, and they're laughing at it. And he doesn't realize that someone's pasted a little sign on his back that says, kick me. And so all the kids are laughing. And when one starts to laugh, the others start to laugh. He doesn't know why it is, but he feels terrible. And in that moment, his unconscious mind said, This is not a safe place to be, standing in front of a group of people trying to speak. And so simply standing in front of a group of people and people, could you please tell us what your name is? He couldn't do it. And so that continued with him, and that followed right into his adulthood. But he never realized it came, had to do with that situation. So in that case, what we're able to do is go back and relive that early situation with a new understanding about it, and really rew rewrite the person's script. And that's a lot of what I do in my private practice. And so when we can become aware of those changes within us that we don't want to be there, we can do something about them. We can have more openness and more freedom and more clarity. And that's what I'd like to begin to open up today.

The Disneyland Metaphor For Life

SPEAKER_02 11:47

I don't know if have you ever been to Disneyland. Of course.

SPEAKER_00 11:53

Lynn loves Disneyland. I love Disneyland.

SPEAKER_02 12:00

There was a little train that was inside of a tunnel. Not it's not there anymore, but you would go through the dark, and then the train would stop. Yes, and the curtains would open, and it's Frontierland.

SPEAKER_00 12:14

Yes, yes, I remember.

SPEAKER_02 12:16

And then it would close, and you're riding in this dark space, and the walls of the tunnel are not interesting. And then it stops again. It's adventureland, and you get to groove on that for about four or five minutes, and then the train takes you away from that. And then there's tomorrow land. So it's uh it's like that. And I began to to think that life is kind of like that. You know, that we go from go through life, most of us every day, every day, and every once in a while, everything is beautiful because we meet a beautiful person or hear a beautiful music or we find a beautiful landscape or whatever it might be, that moment just comes and we just feel wonderful, and it lasts for hours after whatever it was, and then we go back to humdrum again. What is that all about? Because okay, suppose, oh, maybe I see a beautiful painting. All I'm seeing is colors and shapes, really, arranged in a certain manner. But this feeling that I get inside, that something was evoked from within me by what's happening on the outside. It's not outside, it's in me, but for some reason, this is so beautiful a picture of the world that I love it. Well, I thought, you know, there are some people who go through life, and even when they're watching the walls of that tunnel that they're going through, they're enjoying the shapes of the rocks that are going through, or they're enjoying the quiet, or they're hearing a rhythm in the wheels of the train, the bus that's going along. And whatever it is, they're able to see something beautiful in it and enjoy those moments. And I said, Well, maybe life is like that. Every once in a while it opens up and we have a beautiful scene, and we go, ooh, ooh, yeah, sure it's beautiful. Instead of saying, wow, and enjoying the experience, but also being in touch with a part of you that's capable of uh of enjoying, you know. So there can be uh there can be a person, you know, a person who's uh lived a miserable lifestyle, you know, of an ancient someplace in poverty, and we pluck them up and pop them into the life lives that we have, and they're in heaven constantly. You know, how could you not enjoy this and this and this is wonderful? Oh, that's great. What's that beautiful thing over there? It's a garbage truck. Ah, it's funny.

SPEAKER_01 15:10

Yeah, it's a relative experience, it is.

SPEAKER_02 15:17

So I I want to let's take a little, I want to take you on a little bit of a Disneyland trip through the mind before we go further.

Guided Imagery Into Inner Love

SPEAKER_02 15:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 15:26

Disneyland trip to the mind?

unknown 15:27

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 15:28

Yeah, so be in a relaxed position and kind of let your let your eyelids soften, or gently close if you wish. Slow, easy breathing in and then letting it go. And again, breathing in and letting it go and enjoying that experience. If you have a hard time enjoying the experience of breathing, then just take a breath in and hold it. And don't let yourself breathe until you have to. And then at that moment that you finally let yourself breathe, feel how wonderful that breath is. It's always that wonderful, even if you don't note it. So allow your mind to be quiet. It's nothing to solve, nothing to figure out. And notice that beneath all the activity of the mind is already a kind of stillness. And from that stillness there's possible a little more openness, a little more ease. And allow yourself to ride to arrive here fully in the moment, into this moment in time. Remembering this moment that you're in right now is the only moment that exists. Every moment in the past is over and can't come again. Every moment of the future has never existed. But be right here in this moment at this place in the universe. And allow your awareness to go inward toward that quiet center within you. That place that's always there just beneath the surface. Noticing your breath without changing it, but just observing it as it flows in with a breathing in. And flows out with a breathing out. And with each easy breathing out, allow your body to soften just a little more. As though the muscles are receiving a simple message, you can let go now. You can rest. Allowing your forehead to smooth, allow your jaw to unclench. Let your shoulders droop because you don't have to carry anything. And you may notice that from time to time thoughts may still come along like little wisps, like smoke rising, offering themselves follow me, think me and you simply notice and let them drift by and don't engage. And unnecessary thoughts float by like leaves on a quiet stream, disappearing into the distance and allow yourself to settle even more deeply into relaxation. Good. And now allow yourself to imagine or remember a place that for you represents peace, that represents wholeness and tranquility, a sense of spirit. It might be a quiet grove of trees, or sunlight filtering through the leaves, gently undulating in a soft, refreshing cool breeze. A chapel, a mountain, a place by the ocean, waves flowing in like a blessing, or some place that's entirely your own, the place you've been or loved to go to, or did you just make up in your mind? And as you arrive there, you begin to notice the quality of the light, the colours and the sound, the texture of anything that you may touch, the feeling in the air. And most of all, the feeling inside you. A quiet, steady peace. And while you rest there, just gently absorbing that sense of support, of calm, of being held in something larger than yourself. You might imagine a small train, a simple train moving along its track, and you're sitting comfortably inside like a Disneyland train, watching out through its large window as it moves. And now for a while you're travelling through a tunnel, just walls plain, unremarkable, but boring. Nothing much to see. And then the train slows and comes to a stop, and the curtains open, and suddenly you find yourself in a vivid world, color, movement, life, and something delightful, something surprising, and you feel it inside you. A lightness, a curiosity, a quiet joy. Let it flow through your body. The train moves on back through the tunnel. And as you watch this, you begin to realize that life is often like this. There are moments when everything opens and you see beauty, meaning, connection, and you feel it deeply. And then there are longer stretches between the stops, where things seem flat or dull, or even difficult. And yet the capacity to feel that joy, that beauty, that aliveness was never in the scene itself. It was always within you. The scene simply called it forth. And now for a few moments, allow yourself to begin to remember one of those moments back along the trade ro train ride of your life. Back along that train ride of your life. A moment of happiness or love or inspiration. You probably have many. Just choose one. One of those times when the universe created a scene that evoked joy and love or reverence. Something open and you felt connected to something extraordinary. And you felt fully alive and fully connected with everything around you. A sense of being at one with all that is. And as you remember, bring that scene in clearly, and let yourself really be there. Relive it as if you were excitedly telling me all about it. And especially allow yourself to feel those positive feelings. Not as a memory, but as a present experience. You allow to fill your chest, your face, your whole being. You allowed it to come into the present because it can live here. Now let's just travel to one more beautiful moment, maybe a different one, but equally meaningful. One of those holy moments. One of those times when you felt alive or loving or deeply loved. Wherever it may be with a loved one, alone with a child, with an animal, with a higher being. In nature, wherever it may be. Bring it to mind until you can picture the image around you. See the colors, the shapes and the movement. And feel the emotion within you. Feel the passion and feel the gratitude that you feel for so many gifts. And as these feelings arise within notice how easily your inner world responds. And now gently let those specific moments fade, letting the feelings stay with you. And let yourself enter a quieter, even deeper place. And imagine the train is stopped and instead of a scene outside, a doorway opens within you, and you step through into a vast, peaceful space deep within a place of profound stillness, where everything is quiet but not empty, alive but completely at rest. Perhaps it feels like a warm luminous field or a soft glowing light, or like being held in a sacred presence that knows you completely and accepts you entirely, exactly as you are at this moment in time. Utter peace. And in the essence of this place, there's a gentle warmth, a subtle, radiant feeling, and you begin to recognize it as love. Not something you have to create, not something you have to earn, but something that's already here. A quiet, steady, unconditional presence flowing through you. You might feel it first in your heart, a soft, warm spreading gently, lovingly with each breath into your chest, your shoulders, your arms, flowing down into your hands, your fingertips, and as it spreads, you begin to notice that this love has no edges, no boundaries. It doesn't stop at your skin. It continues flowing outward, and you find yourself recalling a time when you are with someone that you loved deeply, that loved you deeply, whether or not they're present at this moment, whether it was for many years or only for five minutes at this moment, feel it. Feel yourself with this person, this pet, or whoever brings you the deepest feelings of love and trust, safety, openness and shared vulnerability, a complete oneness. And you're surrounded by a kind of spiritual glow, a spiritual glow of golden light, filling the space around you and within. And you rest in that, breathing it in and allowing it to flow out. And allow yourself to realize that perhaps this is your true nature. And imagine you can feel that love moving beyond the boundaries of your body. Think of someone that you care about and feel your love flowing towards them. And think of someone neutral, someone who doesn't awaken any particular kind of feeling, or at least very little, and give yourself permission to let that wonderful feeling of love extend towards them. Feel that glow surrounding both of you. Perhaps not as intense as with someone that you already love, but allow yourself to feel that quality of the connection. You might imagine that person as a young child and see that child part of them. And feel your love flow and envelop that child part. Not forcing anything, just allowing a little space, and knowing that this love is not dependent on them, and it's not dependent on anyone else, it arises from within you, and feel it flow forth in little rivulets of golden light, flowing from your higher mind and your heart, streaming forth from your eyes like a gentle invisible mist of peace, of openness, of confidence, of the love that's deep within you, flowing gently forth from your fingers and every other part of you that may come into contact and resting peacefully in this love. How blessedly effortless just a gentle sharing you may realize that it's not dependent upon who's there that whoever you may come into contact with, you can allow yourself to feel that connection because the truth is that we're all one. We're all one. All part of a whole. And to the degree that we can realize that and feel it and see that it is love, the more we can come together and form that whole that we're here to form. And now let yourself go back to that special place of yours that's beautiful and makes it easy for you to feel beauty and love. And allow yourself to speak out loud in the silence of your mind and say, I accept myself exactly as I am at this moment in time. I accept the world exactly as it is at this moment in time. And aware of the wonderful things you have received and continue to feel and receive in your life, repeating yourself with yourself, repeating within. I feel deeply grateful for all that I have received. There's a deep reservoir of love in the depths of my being. I relax my monkey mind so I can hear that still small voice of a spirit that is always there. I allow myself to feel love throughout every organ in my body. I feel the love as it radiates from my body. I feel love throwing flowing up through my arms and hands, flowing into whoever or whatever I touch. I speak gently and with appreciation towards others. I deeply love myself and my creator. I love the inspiration that comes when I trust myself. And allow all these thoughts and images to find their special place within you. And allow yourself gently to begin to return with all you're in touch with with an awareness of that golden flow of love spreading from your body through the space around you. Coming all the way back to being wide awake. As though you've just had a wonderful dream. Coming all the way back. Feeling a sense of stillness and completeness. Knowing that you can always touch these places within. Bring them into your present moment and keep love with you. And then when you're ready coming up as I count to ten, one aware of your body two bringing energy and movement into your muscles. Three breathing a little more deeply. Four feeling centered and refreshed. Five carrying the warmth with you. Six seven aware of the space around you. Eight grounded and present nine and ten allowing your eyelids to open when they're ready.

Acceptance As The Real Takeaway

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And notice how comfortable you see you feel and allow there to be comfort in each thing that you see and feel the love as it flows out and surrounds. Fully wide awake.

SPEAKER_00 36:45

Good.

SPEAKER_02 36:47

And notice how comfortable you feel.

SPEAKER_00 36:50

That was fabulous. That was excellent. And the places that I went through, my the Disneyland, the internal Disneyland ride was wonderful. And it brought up things that I had not really remembered or thought about in a very, very long time. And connecting with those, in some cases, places and other places in other areas, people, and just how marvelous that really is. Also, one thing that really resonated with me during this experience and loving yourself and having the wisdom is the whole aspect of acceptance. Accepting yourself, accepting the world, accepting the circumstances that you know are in front of us, whatever that might be. Being in, I'm gonna call it neutral acceptance. Yes, takes all of that stress and the anxiety and the have-to's and need to's and um chasing the rabbit, so to speak, you know, to try to get ahead or whatever the case may be. It's acceptance just allows you really to be. That's my greatest takeaway from that. And just sharing a little bit more. Um, when you were talking about love and you know, experiencing that and seeing someone or being, you know, connected with something, what came up were my daughters at their birth. I had never experienced love in the highest, most divine way ever until I saw them each when they were born. And they both came early. One look, I say look like an alien because she was very early, and yet the love that was there, the it was incredible. And so going back to that space and then filling every cell of my body to the DNA. Oh my gosh, I think I'm gonna be sailing for a long time. And every time I think of Disneyland, that will be like my trigger point. I love it. Thank you.

SPEAKER_04 39:44

You're welcome. Yes, Nina.

SPEAKER_01 39:49

Oh my gosh, I don't know where I went, I don't know what happened. I heard your voice, your voice was saying things, and I was like, okay, try this. Okay, listen, and then I would blank out.

SPEAKER_02 40:03

Yes, good.

SPEAKER_01 40:04

So that's actually what happened. And you know, to be honest and fair, every time I've meditated with you, when I come back, I'm I'm I'm just so I'm relaxed, but at the same time, I've shared this with Lynn too.

Nausea, Safety, And Vulnerability

SPEAKER_01 40:19

Super nauseous.

SPEAKER_00 40:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:26

We'll have to work on that one day.

SPEAKER_00 40:29

I I I believe it's a little bit of energy that's clearing out. Whatever the that energy is that that sits there, it's you're still not quite ready to fully let it go.

SPEAKER_01 40:47

There is a part of me that's like, listen, resistance, persistence. Can you just go? Just go. That's a conscious mind ready and willing.

SPEAKER_00 40:57

And the subconscious, I guess, is like, no, no, just I would say the belief and safety, there's still a little bit more to go in into that, you know, because um, and we all have so many different experiences, right? And I find depending on what your experiences have been since birth up to where we are now, how you have experienced the world, the way you believe the world has treated you, and varying circumstances has a lot to do with the ability to feel a hundred percent safe. Because also feeling and experiencing safety can allow the love, the self-love and the vulnerability, really. Vulnerability is something I know we experience, and and it's something I think is important to practice because as I once learned, the only way out is to go deeper in. And the deeper you go into it, like vulnerability and whatever else you are fearful or anxious about, you will break through that. And then you find your freedom, or in this case, your love. That's how I how I interpret it.

SPEAKER_02 42:28

Yeah, because it's um what whatever happens, you know, we're always our minds always say, Well, I wish this had happened instead, or how come this didn't happen, or I got cheated, this didn't happen, or maybe it'll happen in the future, or blah, blah, blah, blah. But the point is, this moment is exactly what it is, and it can't be any different. Because if it was different, it wouldn't be this moment. And so to think it should be different is to think nonsense. It can't be, I mean, you can think that, but that simply takes you off the course that you want to be on. So, whatever is happening, to be able to embrace it and not not be not don't judge it, be a little nauseous. I mean, if you're up chucking over all the people sitting in the rows in front of you. I mean, then you might as long as you're not interfering in it, just accept it because it has something to say to you, and that's and that's why it's here, because there's there's no such thing, no such thing as an accident. And when when I when we do the when we do the workshop that we're gonna do, and it's uh I think you're gonna really love it because I'm really getting into talking about I mean, I used to walk through the gardens and I would See the flowers and I would look at a daisy and I say, Well, that daisy's always happy. It's not thinking, Oh my, I don't have so many really beautiful petals as that rose over there. Or oh no, several of my no, I can't let anybody see that. I mean uh you know, it's there's this kind of acceptance, or oh you know, or a dog or a cat, uh cat, can't say, but not a dog anyway, they're more available. Cats have another whole story to tell. They do, they do, but they're right, so but there is that, and if a cat is a cat, is a cat, and a dog is being a cat is just being at all times.

Oxytocin And Our Bonding Blueprint

SPEAKER_02 44:48

And we we talked about love and that experience that you had at birth, what happens at the moment of birth that the pituitary gland puts a big jolt of oxytocin into your bloodstream. Oxytocin is the love chemical. If you give people oxytocin, they feel like they're in love with people around them. And that's what nature does. And it makes you be absolutely head over heels with that creature or those creatures. And it doesn't make any different if you're a natural woman. Now, if you've had enough of abuse, you may not be able to be present at that, you know, at that time, but we're talking about in a healthy way because how how things are designed, we have the bodies and minds are exactly the same as we had 500,000 years ago. And civilization's only a few thousand years old. But we were living, but we were living in little families, little groups of families fighting off the lions and the tigers and the headhunters and the floods and the snakes. It was a tough place that we lived in. And who should come into this but this totally helpless infant? Now, if you're a wildebeest and you're born as a wildebeest, within 15 minutes you're running 20 miles an hour along beside your mother. But we can't do that. And all those years that we are so helpless, primarily because we're so smart, if we stayed in pre-union much longer, our head would grow bigger and we couldn't get out.

SPEAKER_01 46:39

That would be terrible. Yes, that would be terrible for both.

SPEAKER_02 46:45

And so nature set it up, and it's set up so that the mother is and she's born, she gives birth, and then she puts the baby over a shoulder in a shawl or something and carries it around. The baby moves with the mother and hears the mother's voice, sees what the mother reacts to, sees how she picks berries, sees how she fixes dinner, and you know, for a lot of that first year or two, and and even more, and when the mother can set the child down, it's usually to put it in the arms of a little bit older child. But it's still that love, and there's that love the little child, the younger kid. Oh, I'm so happy I get to carry the baby, and you know how it is with kids. And and we're designed to live in a group of people who are tightly bound. And we and I mean, and like when that baby's crying in the middle of the night, it's got colic and it's screaming and yelling and pooping and everything. Now, the average caveman, I mean, we're you know, we haven't changed much through the years. Can't you shut that kid up? You know, the average caveman was really stupid. Let's just throw that one over the edge and then we'll go.

SPEAKER_03 48:01

We'll make another one.

SPEAKER_02 48:06

And so we he the husband learned to love, and so we had these communities based on love. And what I've determined is that the the process of loving is intrinsic to the life force itself, and it is it's like a blueprint that tells us how we live. And of course, as we went through time, there were groups of people in every culture who figured out that we should keep that love alive, and so they figured out these rules, and you go through 95 different religions, because that's what they call, we call them religions. They all say, do unto others as you would have them do unto you, don't steal, don't covet, don't kill. I mean, you know, means be one and love, love that greater spirit that brought us all here. And so we lived in love very early on, that's what kept us together. And if you go to very primitive cultures, I've spent a lot of time throughout the world. Those primitive cultures are loving. I mean, go to Bali, that's one where it was so rich and easy. You know, a Balinese baby is not allowed to touch the ground until it's a full year old. You not even to touch it. There's not much caring and softness. But then something happened when civilization came. And now we had people ruling other people, and we had laws, and we had punishment, and we had thieves, and we had greed, and all of a sudden it's not the way it was in the beginning, and we lose that pure quality of loving that we were born with. And

How Fear Manipulates The Unconscious

SPEAKER_02 50:07

those people who want our money or want our vote or want us to do something for them rather than do the things that we want for ourselves, they have led us to doubt ourselves for that purpose. And the way they do it is they try to keep us on our toes. There's always something scary. Look at the news. Every day there's something else to be scared of. Because whenever a person is afraid, they will tend to reach for whatever relief is there. Because this is not happening at the conscious level, it's at the unconscious level. And so you're feeling nervous, and then you see this beautiful car. Oh, if I had that, I'd feel so much better. Oh, it's got a beautiful woman in it. Maybe they'll keep her in the backseat on you. I don't know. The unconscious mind does not understand that this is all fake. You know, and so you sell those. I mean, I looked at the at the Super Bowl this year, and who's there but Shaquille O'Neal with a bottle of perfume? You know, his new commercial eau de toilette. Give me a break. Okay, please, please. They paid a billion dollars for that 30 seconds, and it's not because anybody believes, oh my god, Shaquille O'Neal must be such a wonderful smelling person. I want his perfume, you know, and it's nobody believes anything, but the unconscious mind believes that you know what, they're gonna win back three or four billion dollars for the million that they put into it, just because oh he's greater than I am, and he uses that perfume. So if I can get that perfume, I could maybe be as great as he is. Not consciously, because we're not that stupid, but the unconscious, it just gives us the urge. So, what I'm gonna do is take us through exactly how that happens, how it has happened, and why it's put the world into the mess that it is right now. Because it's how each one of us is manipulated that they've been able to create this world. It's working beautifully for them because it's keeping us completely confused. What do we gotta do next? And we know we'd like to do next, but it's illegal and immoral and a lot of other things.

SPEAKER_00 52:50

Yes, and then what would happen? I I have a quick question. Um in speaking about love and how yes, there's that purity of love, and then something takes place outside of us, and and we start moving into these other uh mental places, and the subconscious starts taking in what's safe, what's not. But my deeper question is is it possible that the love that you were describing from the cave person era? Could it be that on a DNA level? Because I don't know how to explain it, except we have been taught to be out of love, not to be in the space of love, but to be out of love. And is it possible that yes, that through time we have adopted and uh or adapted to a place of being out of love, and we continue to perpetuate it as we continue to uh have more and more and more children, human beings, teaching them, they're learning that the world is doing all of these things that it's doing. And what you just brought us back to was a place where, oh yeah, that's the pure love. That's where that is. And it's it's it's inside. But so it is possible that we have been that it's now part of our DNA to be out of love, and then we've been programmed to continue to experience that.

SPEAKER_02 54:33

You know, I believe that there are some there's some threads that have run through there. I will say it's just like it's like a domesticated animal that lets you put a collar on its neck and and do those things, has been trained to do to be that way. But yeah, it used to be that we were free. We and our family, we want to travel here, we go here, we go there, we do this, and we had that freedom, and we were connected to the people around

Domestication, DNA, And A Ghana Lesson

SPEAKER_02 55:03

us. And there was uh a friend of mine was in Ghana, he was studying their legal system, and while he was there, uh a teenage kid was caught, and he had been stealing things from the different homes and huts of the people who lived around, and they they caught him, and so they were gonna deal with it. And what they did was they got the the whole group, the tribe, so must have been 30, 40 people in a big circle, and they put the kid right in the middle of the circle. And everybody sat down and they all had their attention on him. And somebody said, you know, what I what always made me so happy about you was when I was re-roofing my shed after that big storm, and you brought all of those branches to me one after another for three days. You worked and we got everything built before the rains came, and my family was so grateful for you for doing that. And then somebody else raises their hand, and that time when the baby was so sick and mom was too ill to take care of it, and you came over and you babysat for that whole week. You took her that baby for us, and we were so thrilled by that. And another one raised their hand one by one. Each of the people said the things that he had done that showed his love and commitment. And he started crying, and he just choked up all of these tears, and he was crying, and he said, I don't I don't know what got into me. I love you all so much. How could I have done that? I'll never do it again, never and everybody went back and took care of their business.

SPEAKER_00 57:00

That was it.

SPEAKER_02 57:02

They just connected him.

SPEAKER_00 57:04

Beautiful.

SPEAKER_02 57:05

Yeah. Because it was close enough that they could do that. But then as years go by, so now the culture that we live in, you know, people are like um domesticated animals. They buy what you tell them to buy, and they speak the way you want them to speak, and they vote the way you want them to vote. And every once in a while, some people come forth with some originality, and as quickly as possible, the system tries to crush them. And if they don't, you know, then you have something like Barack Obama. What? Barack Obama, president of the United States, but he managed to get through and to be able to bring out the things that he believed in in the work that he was doing. So, in that sense, we've been trained to be domesticated, but the training to be domesticated was being deprived of a sense of the power and the importance of loving each other and finding those people to be close to and and love to. One of the things that I do is work with groups of people, 20, 40, 60, 80, 100, whatever, and we have those people who may live in the same neighborhood, but they don't know each other. And we set them down at little tables, three, four people, five, six people each, and we have them talk to each other, not fight about uh left wing or right wing or Catholic or Jewish, not to talk about the war, not to talk about all that BS, that they want us to talk about instead. You know, what is it that excites you? What's been the most beautiful things in your life? If you could do something to improve our community, what would it be? And so forth, to where people are talking about what they feel and what they care about, and that's all that's all you're allowed to talk about. And pretty soon people begin to recognize each other's spirit. I mean, even within the first hour of doing something like that, there's that connection, and there's is this feeling that comes over this whole room of people, every different color, religion, size, and it's everyone feels it. You can just feel it, and it's love, that's what it is, and so we can re-evoke it because yes, it's been trained out of us, but our DNA is stronger than that, and we can change it.

SPEAKER_00 59:59

It still has the love, okay. Yes, yes, that's wonderful, and that's a great exercise, actually. That's beautiful, and I think it sounds like a project.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:11

It seems I've heard about what you explained about the story in Ghana. I've heard of that, uh, or I read it about it somewhere. So thank you for reminding me that of yeah, Richard, Richard Fryer, F L Y

Building Symbiosis Through Local Community

SPEAKER_01 1:00:26

E R.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:26

Oh, yes, yes, yes. Okay, yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:30

He calls it symbiosis because we're dependent on each other. And he did it up here in Reno, Reno, Nevada. Um, he got people together and the it grew and grew, and then people started when they're feeling all of this all that we all we love our place and we love each other. What can we do? Somebody said, Well, there's all these hungry children. What if we could feed them? Yes, let's figure out how to do it. They figure it out. And somebody knew some farmers, and someone knew a business guy, and another guy knew someone with a truck, and they talked, and people said, Yeah, we'll help, we'll help. And the children got fed. What do we do now? Oh, there's all these homeless people, and they went on and on. Eventually, the group uh has grew to a total of about 50,000 people, I think that it's a good thing. Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:20

Yeah, I know it's been yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:24

So it's called um, is it birthing the symbiotic society or something like that? But it is Richard Fryer, and you can even listen to him on Audible. But it's uh you listen to him, uh he's quite a quite wonderful guy. So I'm working with some people up here in the Nevada City area, and we're beginning to bring people together like that.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:49

So that's beautiful. I think we may have to uh consider doing that as in Miracles Ultimate Wellness Resources, you know, and just just keep that going because really it is about community, and community is love.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:07

That's right.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:08

And as you say, recognizing we're all connected and then coming together as as individuals to become a whole that then moves things forward, life and living forward that supports and allows all of us to really be at our best and to receive the best. So I like that.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:31

Well, the Beatles got it right, right? All you need is love. All you need is love, and I I believe that with the the core of who I am. I I've figured out some moons ago that the answer to to it all is love. The challenge is the same thing. It's the answer and the challenge. And I'm so glad that you know we were able to have this conversation and that we're gonna go deeper and deeper and next time we come together for um our recorded podcast, and then you're live with us in

Workshop Invite And Closing Steps

SPEAKER_01 1:03:15

June. That's gonna be so exciting, and all the information will be put down in the show notes here. How to register, what to expect, all of the things. So we're very excited. Thank you, Dr. Miller, for taking your time. I know you're so busy, busy, you know, helping and changing the world. And we love you for it. And we thank you for all the work that you do for us. And um listen, for those of you who love what you're hearing, please like, comment, share. And if you want more of Dr. Miller and to have him live and to be able to chat with him live, make sure you register. We have limited spaces and limited time. So I'm sure he'd like to help and support each and every one of you. And then to Lynn, is there anything else you'd like to say, Lynn?

SPEAKER_00 1:04:03

No, you pretty much said it all. Um, except oh, also if you would like to connect with Dr. Miller, you can do that on the Miracles Ultimate Wellness Resources. When you go there and uh go to the services directory, his face will be front and center in June, and you'll be able to click on it, open it up, and see how you can also be able to reach out to him. So we want to thank you so much again. This has been absolutely wonderful, and I know you've uplifted me, and I believe Nina and everyone listening to a place of real inner love, self-love that expands beyond us into the world. So thank you so much for your contribution and everything you do.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:54

Oh, you're very welcome. Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:57

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