Your Body Thinks Every Worry Is Life or Death with Dr. Emmett Miller

What if stress is doing more than making you feel overwhelmed?

In this episode of Healers Talk Healing from Miracles Ultimate Wellness Resources, Lynne Herod-DeVerges and Nina Ganguli sit down with Dr. Emmett Miller, a pioneer in mind-body medicine, to explore the powerful connection between stress, the nervous system, mindfulness, and deep healing.

Dr. Miller explains how the body can react to everyday worries as if they are life-or-death threats — and why this constant state of tension can affect our health, emotions, decisions, and overall sense of peace.

Together, they discuss:

• Why stress can impact the body so deeply
• The difference between managing symptoms and addressing the root cause
• How the amygdala responds to fear, worry, and perceived danger
• Why mindfulness, meditation, relaxation, and prayer can support healing
• How the present moment can become a doorway back to peace
• What “deep healing” really means beyond surface-level symptom relief

This conversation is an invitation to slow down, listen to your body, and consider what healing may look like when we go beneath the surface.

If you have been feeling overwhelmed, disconnected, anxious, or stuck in survival mode, this episode offers a meaningful perspective on how the mind and body work together — and how we can begin to return to calm, clarity, and wholeness.

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Transcript

Welcome And What You Will Feel

SPEAKER_00 0:01

Welcome to Healers Talk Healing, the podcast where we gather to explore the art and science of holistic healing, uncovering the secrets to a happier, healthier you. I'm your host, Nina Ganguli, and together we will delve into the intriguing world of holistic healing, delving into the mind-body connection, ancient wisdom, and natural remedies. Get ready for enlightening stories, thought-provoking expert interviews, and practical tips that will empower you to unlock your true potential and embrace a vibrant, balanced life. Whether you're an experienced wellness enthusiast or simply curious about the power of healing, join us on this exhilarating journey as we share the wisdom and insights that can truly transform your life. It's time to embark on a voyage towards a happier, healthier you. So, without further ado, let's dive into the captivating world of healers talk healing. Welcome back to Healer's Talk Healing. On today's episode, you don't just listen, you get to feel. We're joined by Dr. Emmett Miller, often referred to as the father of mind-body medicine, whose work has shaped how we understand the connection between the mind, stress, and healing. From pioneering guided imagery in the 1970s to teaching that the mind operates like a biocomputer, one that can be reprogrammed. Dr. Miller has spent decades helping people access a deeper level of healing. In this conversation, we go beyond symptoms and into what Dr. Miller calls deep healing. Because what you hear in this, most of what we experience physically is not just physical, it's emotional, it's behavioral, it's rooted in stress patterns and unconscious responses. We've been living in for years. And the ship is complicated, but it's powerful. It's the ability to pause, to come back to the present moment, to move out of stress, and into a state where the body can actually begin to heal. You'll even be guided through a powerful experience in this episode, one that helps you reconnect with peace, with presence, and something deeper within you. So as you listen, give yourself permission not just to hear this, but to experience it. And if you're ready to go deeper into this work, to be supported in your healing journey, I invite you to join our Wellness Seekers membership community. It's where these conversations turn into real ongoing transformation through community guidance and shared growth. So let's begin.

Deep Healing Versus Symptom Fixes

SPEAKER_03 2:46

So um I'm very interested in how you did come to think about and consider mindfulness and the role that it plays in healing.

SPEAKER_02 3:02

Oh okay. It um happened very early in my in my career in in the late 1960s. Uh um, I began to notice things in my practice of medicine that didn't accord with things that were happening in the m field of medicine didn't they didn't work for me. Uh and I started paying careful attention to my patients to see what actually heals and what only manages symptoms. And there's a difference because we have a symptom, which is something we can see. But what's the source of the symptom, we may not we may not be able to see at all. So a person may be short of breath and tired and drinking a lot and eating a lot and gaining weight, and and those are all symptoms. But if you look deeper, what it's about the pancreas, because the person has diabetes. And that's the source. And if we can take care of that, so we give insulin to replace what the pancreas isn't giving them, then uh then we can have a resolution down at the level of the symptoms. So um I I always watched to see what was healing and what wasn't, and then and I started using a number of different techniques. And I finally, toward the middle of the 1990s, decided that I would write a book about everything that I had discovered.

SPEAKER_01 4:41

Oh nice.

SPEAKER_02 4:43

And I named the book Deep Healing because I realized that I wasn't writing about uh medicine as we usually think about it, I was writing about wholeness. So let me give you an in a good silly example of what happens when a person goes into the emergency room, and let's say that they're they're vomiting up blood. Well, uh uh um I guess maybe a chimpanzee would say, Oh, he's bleeding. Let's stuff some gauze in his mouth and stop the bleeding. Now, that wouldn't make it wouldn't be a good idea. But in a way, that's what we do in Western medicine. We get rid of the surface symptoms, but we don't deal with what's with what's underneath. So most of the time now, what do we do? If someone's bleeding, we say, Coming up, we see what it is. Well, maybe it's an ulcer. We get an x-ray, aha, and we see an ulcer, and we say, a. Now we know it's a bleeding ulcer. That's the disease. So we operate and we cut out the ulcer. We're finished, right? No. Why did he have an ulcer? So you ask a few more questions, you find out because he drinks a large bottle of whiskey and eats a bottle of aspirin every single day to get rid of his hangover. That's the true cause of his ulcer, right? Because anybody does, that's going to get an ulcer. But then you might ask, but why does he drink so much? And if you take time, you discover that he had cheated his brother out of his share of an inheritance. And now he's wrapped with guilt and with shame. And so that guilt and shame lead him to drink alcohol to deaden the pain, which creates the ulcer, which creates the bleeding. So, really, when we when let's look at what's the source, the source of it has to do with his behavior and how he's reacting to his own behavior. And so the same thing happens with many, many of our diseases. Most of our diseases are either caused by stress or they're brought on by stress. You may have a, you know, you may have some other kind of illness, could be cancer, or it could be muscle spasm from an injury or something like that. You become more stressed, and what do you know? You start having more pain and more discomfort. So stress may actually be at the cause, or it makes things worse when it does when it does come about. So that what you find when you look in in the case of many of the things that people have, and also when you want to help a person get well from whatever is happening, you want to take a look at people's emotions, their behaviors, their relationships, and their spiritual lives. How we live, how we love, how we cope, what we believe, and um what we feel about our homes in our lives. And if we can deal with the inner stress in our lives, then a large proportion of our illnesses and addictions and unhappiness goes away. And even if you do have an illness or disease, I mean you can have a stroke and then you've had a stroke. Well, then you're limited in what you can do, but you may be able to quiet the pain, you may be able to increase your ability to move and do things. Sometimes people get a stroke and they get so disappointed by it, and they're so frustrated that they stop trying and they get worse. If instead they say, No, I'm gonna push through this and do something, and if they have the tool to do it, then they can change. And that's why I call it deep healing, because we're looking below the surface. So the people that I see in my practice and who I've seen in my practice exclusively, I've practiced regular medicine for a number of years, but in 1974, I sold my x-ray machine, all my medical equipment, uh, because I really didn't need it anymore. People come and we sit and we talk for an hour or two, um, maybe once or twice or three times, and I'm able to give that person some tools to make major changes in their lives.

SPEAKER_01 9:26

That's beautiful.

SPEAKER_02 9:28

And that really creates that really creates wholeness.

SPEAKER_03 9:32

That's beautiful. Yeah. So if if I'm hearing you correctly, um, stress can actually come about in emotional stress, say if there's a situation or trauma. It can be in the way of mental stress, maybe being an overwhelm, thinking too much, you know, that sort of thing. But stress can also happen as a physical stress in the way of an injury or condition. And regardless of that level of stress, it always traces back to something much deeper.

SPEAKER_01 10:09

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 10:10

That then we have behaviors and patterns and things of that nature that exacerbate and add to the stress. And so that's where we have to begin really the healing process.

SPEAKER_02 10:26

Right.

Stress Biology And The Amygdala

SPEAKER_02 10:27

And the the trick about stress is that there's two levels of our mind. We're aware of our minds. We think, where do we go? What do we want to do? What movie do we want to see? Yeah, we're thinking, thinking. And there's another part of the mind that's keeping you breathing, that's balancing the amount of sugar in your blood and oxygen, and all those kinds of things. And that's in your unconscious mind, your monkey mind, because it looks just like the mind of a monkey. And one thing in that part of the of the brain, and what's called a limbic system, is called the amygdala. It's a very small, a small little organ about the size of an almond. And it's located deep in here. Now, this part of the brain was very was majorly important 500,000 years ago. We weren't very smart. And we had one tool. For a million years, humanity had a single tool. It was kind of kind of looked like a cone made out of a cut rock. It was used to strip off the inside of a fur of an animal so you could wear it. Okay, but that was our tool, right? We were very not too smart. However, at that time there were certain dangers around. There were saber-toothed tigers, there were floods, there were landslides, the sometimes the cannibals would come chasing you. Things like that happened. And this amygdala was something that learned when you were just growing up, it learned what to be afraid of, what could damage, what could hurt you. So when this part of the, when the this part of the brain believes that you are facing a life or death challenge, then it pumps your body fluid of adrenaline. You start breathing, your heart starts beating faster, it tenses all the muscles of your body to get ready for fight or flight. Uh, it produces cortisone that goes through your body and starts basically dissolving the organs of your body to turn them into glucose so that you can fight like hell in 10 or 15 minutes. That's what it's all about. That's stress.

SPEAKER_03 12:54

Okay, interesting.

SPEAKER_02 12:56

And it is designed to help you protect yourself from physical assailants and to save your life. That's all. Now, what happens in the world that we live on? Oh, you know, let's say uh that I turn on my television and I hear that the president of the United States is having a fight with the Pope or something ridiculous like that. Nothing like that could ever happen, of course.

SPEAKER_03 13:24

Of course not. Let's just imagine, okay. What?

SPEAKER_02 13:29

You know, yeah, we're doing what? Yesing's doing that. Oh, oh, and we start tensing up, oh, can we start, and sure enough, we begin to go through a stress response because this part of your brain believes that what they're seeing there may be life or death. Well, it may be life or death because it might start a nuclear war, bottom line, in what we're doing, but it's not at this moment.

SPEAKER_03 14:00

Right. I was just gonna say, okay.

SPEAKER_02 14:03

Breathing fast, tensing up your body and so forth are not helping. Plus, once you do this for a while, of course you're carried around all day, you have these thoughts, you know, you're worried about this, you're worried about inflation, you're worried about what's gonna happen with this, and uh, there's no more childcare for my kid, on and on and on. And every time you think about those things, your body's reacting as if those things were life or death threats. So it doesn't help. And not only it doesn't, it doesn't help you solve the problem, you know. What are they gonna do is go in there and say, step aside, Mr. Pope, I'll take care of this.

SPEAKER_03 14:50

I think some of us would like to, but we can't.

SPEAKER_02 14:56

Right, we can't and the other thing that it does, so we're carrying this around all day, and you do that for days and weeks and months and years, the muscles start spasming in here, so you start getting headaches, or you start getting back aches, or you start getting ulcers, or do something like that. So that continued process, whereas again, it's doing no good, it's doing lots of bad. The other thing that it does is when you're in an emergency situation, well, this part of the brain, the amygdala, it shuts off your higher brain. Because we had a higher brain 500,000 years ago, but this brain didn't understand anything, you know. It just was like really stupid. It it thought that to dipping your arms in a in a in a bowl full of full of blood-sucking animals was going to cure your your uh tuberculosis, right? Leeches are gonna cure your something. We just didn't know. So this part of the the subconscious mind turns off your higher mind, which means you can't make good decisions because you can't think clearly. Instead, you're in a state, this tension, it's an internal, and you want something to make you feel better. What makes me feel better? I think a glass of whiskey. Oh, I feel a little bit better. Have another one. Oh, yeah, no, I really feel better. I think I'll just have one more and then I'll drive home. Because this part of your brain is gone, it's not thinking so we and so that's one of the worst things about stress. So when we're feeling upset about something, it's not because there's anything in our environment that's physically gonna heal us or gonna injure us in the next few few minutes, right? So that's why there's absolutely no need for the tension in your body. And so what I learned really early on is I could teach people how to relax their body. As long as you know in your higher mind that you're in a safe place and that you don't need to be tense, that you don't need to speed up your heart, you don't need to do any of those things at all, then you have the possibility of allowing your body to relax thoroughly. And we do that through deep relaxation, could be through prayer, um, it it could be through um mindfulness or any kind of meditation. They all do the same thing, kind of relax the body and let the body feel as comfortable as if uh it that you are as safe as you are. And because the things that you the things that are frightening you are not what's happening, what's making you tense when you're tense, nervous, anxious, panic. It's not what's going on physically around you, it's what you're remembering of something you heard or saw in the past. It's not in the present. Okay. It's something you imagine in the future that's scary to you, but that doesn't exist at either. In fact, the the past does not exist. Not even one second of the past can ever come back again. There's only one moment in time that exists.

SPEAKER_03 18:41

And that's

Returning To Now Before Decisions

SPEAKER_03 18:42

the moment we're in now.

SPEAKER_02 18:43

Right now. And the best thing that you can do to heal your body, to create success in whatever you're doing is to have the ability to stop and come into the present moment. Okay and to do that before you make any important decision. Never, never, never, never make a decision when you're really angry. Because what happens? I'm so angry, okay. I quit. Take your job and shut it. And I'm on my way home. Oh my god, what did I do? What did I do? I've got a big mortgage tomorrow. I've had enough. I want a divorce, you know. Yeah, well, I take it back, I take it back. No, it's too late. You know, it's like you make all those bad decisions. Yeah, I just think I'll have uh, you know, another few pieces of pie. Wait, your body doesn't need that, doesn't want it.

SPEAKER_03 19:49

So and then that stresses the body more, just using that as an example. That next that piece of pie, or in my case, a pint of Hagen Boss ice cream, the body doesn't need, but it stresses the body more, which keeps you in that state of stress.

SPEAKER_02 20:07

Exactly. It's a perpetual state of stress, then and what is pushing you to do those behaviors that you don't want to do is a feeling of discomfort inside. I've got to get away from this discomfort. And then you behave, or maybe you just say, I'm just gonna go in my room and crawl under the covers and not talk to anybody for a week. Okay. I mean, you can do that, but you always create more problems outside by running away when all you have to do is stop and relax. I mean, it's so simple. It's hard to do because we don't see people doing it. We have not been taught that in school. We have many stories and movies we see where where our stars teach us all kinds of bad behaviors. We watch it, we enjoy watching them do these things. The unconscious part of your mind is saying, hmm, you know, maybe maybe I should start acting crazy like that. So we're programmed to do all of these negative things. And by our culture, we're we're trained to be helpless. Which is where our country has been in for the last uh, I would say, maybe 20, in the last 20 or 30 years, it's been an increasing sense of helplessness among people. And that helplessness has been associated with separation, with our becoming disconnected from each other, and we've been intentionally taught to separate each other. Then along comes the internet and along comes smartphones. And and we talk about this. I'll talk about this in in some of my webinars and so forth, because it's it's crucially important. And they are teaching us to feel helpless. Because every advertiser wants us to feel helpless. You know, you're not cute enough. Your car is not cool enough. Uh, you know, your your wash day detergent is not doing the best job on your clothes. You you're lacking something. You're too short, you're too tall, you're too fat, you're too thin, right? So there's a message in every commercial that says, you are not in the best place that you can be in. But we've got the answer. Right?

SPEAKER_03 22:48

That's so true. And then, of course, with all of that happening and going into um our brain, and whether we realize it or not, we are subject to it. And then it again becomes um a reverberating effect in all of these ways that's not necessarily healthy for us. So um it it is, it does feel, I must say, a little bit like I'm going to go to the furthest corner of the earth where there are green pastures and beautiful trees, a gorgeous lake. I will I will disconnect from any the rest of the world. I'll plant my own food. I will, you know, have my own uh food source if you're a meat eater or fish, you know, eater or what have you for protein. I'll I'll do these things. I'll just get my own generator and I will be good and then I can meditate all day and nothing can touch me. It kind of feels like off the grid. Way off the grid.

SPEAKER_00 24:11

I'm laughing because I've had those thoughts. Literally, like, okay, so I'll have my own food in the backyard, get a generator, see if I can begin how much I can live off the grid in my own community.

SPEAKER_02 24:25

Yeah, yeah.

Helplessness Culture And The Urge To Flee

SPEAKER_02 24:29

And so all of that is running away. It's running away, and it's associated with the fact that we're feeling helpless. We've been trained to feel helpless.

SPEAKER_03 24:40

This just continues uh again to keep people in a state of um dis ease. That's what I'll say. Disease or lack of easement, which is the opposite of stress. And then from what you were saying in terms of how the physical body reacts, and then when everything turns to sugar or glucose when you're stressed, no wonder there's a diabetic epidemic, not only because of patterns and behaviors, but also because of what the body does, naturally trying to protect itself, but when you're always in a in a state of perpetualness with it, then you know it's like, then how do you not escape the situation, but find that level of peace and easement that can really help relax the mind, calm the emotions, stop the monkey brain uh antics, and allow your physical body to just go, ooh, thank you. I needed that rest, that you know, calmness. What do we do to start going about uh helping that?

SPEAKER_02 26:06

Well, you

Building Calm Pathways In The Brain

SPEAKER_02 26:07

could take a good long vacation on the beach or in the backyard when you're like that.

SPEAKER_01 26:13

I like that idea.

SPEAKER_03 26:14

Yeah, picnic in the on in in the backyard, just doing that for two or three hours, you know, once a week might be nice.

SPEAKER_02 26:23

And any place, um, if you don't already have one, you need to find a place of great relaxation and peace. And you maybe you maybe you get to go and literally, yeah, be on the beach for seven or fourteen or twenty one days, and don't do anything but just sit. Do not read the newspaper, don't look or talk to anybody who tells you you aren't exactly who you're supposed to be, and that you are exactly the person that you're supposed to be right now, which is true, which is always true, but we don't know that, and so we're trying to be somebody else. But in those places you can relax, or perhaps you already have memories of times when you felt really good. It could have been when you're very young, it could have been being held in your mother's arms if you can remember that. Great, or it could be at the moment you gave birth and you had, after a long nine months, this incredibly beautiful person in your arms, and it was like you were on top of the world, or it may have been in church, or you may have been praying, you may have been meditating, or just sitting on the top of a mountain and find a sense of peace so that you know what that feeling is like inside. And if you were to tell me about that place, and you were to tell me about the colors and what you were doing and how it felt in your body, and how your breathing was. If you if you told me that, I would begin to feel what you felt because you'd be telling it to me, and I'd be open to what you were saying. And likewise, you would begin to feel it as you tell it to me, because you are accessing it through our minds when we get rid of the amygdala, say, shh, quiet. You learn how to quiet that amygdala. And of course, we do that by learning to relax or meditate or go into deep prayer. And what we see is when we look at an FMRI, we see that there are nerve tracts that flow from your prefrontal cortex. That's the brain's brain. This is the highest part of your brain. This is the executive. This is the part that can analyze and strategize and make plans and compare plans and choose a path into the future and set a goal in that path and not let anything get in. That's what this is. So if you do that and relax on a regular basis, you grow these really thick bands of nerves that go from your prefrontal cortex directly to your amygdala, and they carry gamma amino butyric acid. Um, it doesn't sound as good as it feels. It is wonderful. That's that's what you feel once you've been sitting out on that beach for a while. That's what your body says. Hey, there's no tigers around, there's no wolves, there's nobody attacking, we can let go.

SPEAKER_03 29:47

There's no survival.

SPEAKER_02 29:49

That's right. Yeah, you you are survival. That's it. Yeah, I mean, I mean, even if at that time when you uh let's say you knew that you weren't gonna survive, um and you know, it's like the the the the pilot in the plane said, ladies and gentlemen, now unfortunately we are going to be making contact with that mountain in front of us in about one minute. Nothing we can do about it except return your tray to the full upright position, you know, and bend over and butt your knees and kiss your butt goodbye. You know, if that's said, what are you gonna do at that moment? People are gonna be yelling and screaming and trying to call people on the phone and oh, it'll be pedlam in there. I'm gonna be sitting there quietly. You know, I'm gonna be thinking about a vacation that I had in Hawaii one time at a this little pond where there was this high waterfall flowing into this one pond. There was nobody there but me and my wife, and we were incredibly happy. I'm gonna enjoy that, and then I'll think of how much I love her, and I'll think about each of my kids and how much I love them. I'll think about these wonderful friends that I have, and all the beautiful things that have happened to me in my life, the delicious foods I've been able to taste. Oh, and that great granola that my wife made for me last week. Like, boom, and then it's over. That's the way to go.

SPEAKER_03 31:33

You know, you know, that's it's it's uh it it also from what you were saying, and as you were you were describing that, it's moving your perspective and your mind into a place of joyfulness, true joyfulness in love. And in that place, everything else that happens after that moment continues to be uh an aspect, if you allow it, to be joyful. And then the next you know, perspective or where the mind goes into those places, it then continues to bring the feeling of love.

SPEAKER_02 32:20

Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 32:20

And so it it what I'm gathering is uh meditation helps strengthen that area, which also as you were as you were discussing it, I was I just want to make sure I have this clearly. And it you relax your body, you don't have this much tension, you don't have as much stress, you're able to stay in a place again of more joyfulness and love. And so as you as your body continues to mature, you don't have to have the stress, the tension, the heart not pumping correctly, you know, and other uh uh situations that actually bring about what many people say, oh, you know, they lived to be 95, they lived a long time in the bright old age. And I've always, in my own mind, disputed it a little bit because I'm like, because the cellular, the cells regenerate, you know, every seven years or whatever the case may be, imagine seven years of just peace and ease and joy and staying in that frame of mind, in that consciousness, strengthening that with meditation. And for in my experience, I have relatives who have lived well over a hundred without canes, without wheelchairs, who, you know, without having strokes or cancer or what have you. And so I, you know, I think to myself, well, 95 is not really that that old. That's just hitting an elder space because they may still have another good 10, 15 years left on them, you know, and the reference because I'm just telling you, your elderlies all live quite long.

unknown 34:25

They do.

SPEAKER_03 34:26

However, yes, and everyone goes, oh, that's great genetics. I'm like, yes, but it's more than that. And so as you're speaking, Dr. Miller, I'm hearing that again, mindfulness is so much the key to how we're able to move forward and live longer, even with all of the different uh energies and aspects outside of ourselves in the world that we live in today, where we are constantly being placed in a way of thinking that we have to be afraid. And so that's that's what I'm hearing you say is just really staying in that in that space. And I'm with you. If if if a a pilot, no, not if I will not be in that situation. However, in that example that you gave, yes, I would do the same thing you do. What can you do in a minute? You couldn't even get your cell phone out in a minute, you couldn't even make the phone call in a minute. The only thing you can do is take control of yourself and where you choose to be in that present moment in your perspective, in this this physical body that you still have, yeah, and and move that way, move forward that way.

SPEAKER_02 36:00

Right. And it may not it may not be a pilot going into a mountain. It it could be, well, you're in an automobile accident, maybe you lose your legs. So you say, okay, I can't do things with my legs. I used to do, but I got my hands. Yes, and you deal with wherever you are at that moment. And um so it's wherever you are to be able to be at peace, and then you take that with you wherever you go.

Guided Imagery For Love And Peace

SPEAKER_02 36:34

Maybe I should do maybe a little bit of imaging just to give a sense of what it might be like. That would be great. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 36:41

I was just about to ask. I'm like, where where do you find these keys to the kingdom? Where are these keys?

SPEAKER_03 36:49

Give you one right now.

SPEAKER_02 36:53

You find it wherever you can let your body be at this moment, be in a comfortable place. As much as possible to where you don't have to do anything physical to support your body. Just as if you're gonna sleep or relax and let yourself be in that place. Start with your eyes open and choose a point over on the ceiling opposite you to focus your attention. Remember, that's the highest part of your mind, that's the part that focuses your attention. Until your eyes you're gonna stay sparked right on that point. And they try to move away, but you keep them there. You are focusing your attention. And as you're looking at that point, let yourself become aware that you're in a very safe place right now. There's no other place that you need to go, there's nothing else that you need to do, there's no problem that you have to solve, there's no emergency. So you can give yourself permission to relax. And by relaxing, I simply mean letting go. And you may notice that even that spot that you're looking at sort of fades off into a blur. And that's okay because you don't need to be seeing what's outside at this moment. In fact, you may find your eyes blinking a little more often, giving you signals that they would like to close. And when you're ready, allow your eyelids to close themselves. And behind your closed eyelids, let your eyes gently roll upward till you're looking upward toward the back of your forehead. And imagine you can see the word love written on the back of your forehead. And as you see that word love, just notice what thoughts come to your mind. You're in a comfortable, safe place. And as you focus there on the back of your forehead, notice how relaxed your eyelids become. So relaxed that if you test them, you notice they'll resist being open. They're so relaxed. And as you do that, let the relaxation from your eyelids flow throughout the rest of your body. Like ripples flowing outward from a stone thrown into the quiet surface of a still pond. Ripples of relaxation through your face, feel your neck relaxing, your shoulders and your arms all the way down to your fingertips. As the relaxation reaches your fingertips, you may notice a little tingling or warmth. Take a deep breath in, draw the relaxation from your fingertips up into the center of your chest, and as you let that breath out, think to yourself the words, it breathes me. With each breath out, think the words, it breathes me. Because there is a deep wisdom within you that breathes you all night long. Let yourself go and let yourself sink into that little pause after you've breathed out and before the next breath begins itself. Let yourself sink down into that pause. That's the quietest time of all. For all your mind and body. And let that relaxation flow through your chest and your belly, down through your legs, right out through the tips of your toes. And any time any unnecessary thoughts come along you can let those thoughts go. Thoughts about the past or about the future. Remember the past doesn't exist and never can exist again. The future has never even been here. There's only one moment and that's this moment here that you feel so clearly as you sink under that little pause. Here now. And any time an unnecessary thought comes along, breathe it out with your next breath out. Let your next breath in, breathe in cleansing air to cleanse your mind. And let yourself float as though you're floating through time and space. Let yourself travel to one time in the past the kind of time I was talking about a little while ago. When you were in touch with something very beautiful in touch with love like a newborn baby. Or love when you witness something beautiful at sunset when you were with people that you love when you were on a beautiful vacation or in a deep meditation or in prayer. Where is it that you go? Let yourself travel there now and picture this place around you just as if you were telling me this story. See the colours Anything that you're touching, feel it's texture. If there are sounds in the air, hear the sounds. And if there's someone that you love or a being that you love or a sacred spirit that you feel, allow yourself to be in touch with that and know that this moment lives forever within you. And as you give yourself more and more permission to feel these joyful moments of your wholeness, of your health, of the peace that you can experience inside when you learn to tell your undermind your monkey mind to be at peace, to tell your amygdala to rest. Your ability to see, to hear, to walk, to dance, to taste, to love your family, your community, to experience those you love and those who have loved you. Focus on the positive things that you feel grateful for in your life. In your mind, think the words I accept myself exactly as I am. I feel deep gratitude for all those gifts I have been given. And I give myself permission to be open to the experience of love. And as each breath breathes me, I can feel love being breathed into my body. Because each new breath is a new awakening of life and love and spirit. Let it flow throughout your body. And feel where you feel that feeling of love most deeply in your body. And as you breathe into this place in your body, let it carry that love throughout every cell of your being. Imagine that love fairly streams forth out through the tips of your fingers and through the tips of your toes, through each thing and each person and each animal you touch. Love flows from your body into theirs, for those you embrace, for those you speak to, see the love pour forth. No need to judge or criticize. No need to struggle or fight with anyone. You can accept the world exactly as it is, because this is the only way that it can be at this moment in time. Your choice is to accept it and love it and be or to fight against it and suffer, which is always a choice that's available to you. You make the kind of choice that you want to make and envision yourself later on today or tomorrow or next week. Imagine yourself carrying this feeling of love with you wherever you go, an acceptance of each thing that happens. Should a true emergency come along, don't worry. You will wake up to it immediately. And then you can use your stress to fight or get away. And as soon as you're safe, close your eyes and take your awareness inside. Come back to your special place inside. Feel the sense of peace. Feel the love because it is the essence of who you are. And feel your ability to give to give and your openness to receive. You know when someone's for real. And you know when a gift is being given with love. And you can open and embrace it. And now picture yourself looking as healthy and as well as you can imagine. Dress the way you love to be dressed, doing something you really like doing, maybe with someone you really enjoy being with. Picture your body. Picture your body really healthy and vigorous. Filled with life energy and feeling love for everything you do. And a continued deep sense of gratitude for every moment. Including this one. And remember, each time you picture yourself the way you really want to be in the future, you become more and more this person in the present. Because this is the person you already are down deep inside. Let that person fill you. And allow yourself and your own time and speed to come back to the place where your body is resting comfortably. Bringing with you all the peace, all the comfort, and all the love. And know that it's always there within you. And when you're ready, then allow your eyelids to open. Take a deep breath in as you let it out. Fully wide awake. And take a moment and notice how comfortable you feel.

SPEAKER_03 49:42

Very casual.

SPEAKER_02 49:44

And that's basically it.

Practice Twice Daily And Next Steps

SPEAKER_02 49:47

Do that two or three times a day. Every time you do it, you're strengthening that set of nerves going into your amygdala and you're gaining control over it. The same way as if you start exercising a muscle. And the same way as you learn that at any time during your life when you feel yourself getting upset or angry or frightened or feeling guilty or alone or scared or ashamed or negative or helpless or uh suspicious or resentful, any of those kind of negative feelings, they are all part of a life or death system of feelings. But there's no life or death going on right now. Take that breath and let it go and come down to that peaceful place, and you'll know because you've practiced this, you'll know when you're there. And as soon as you're there, now your higher mind can be in control. And you'll say to yourself, what would be the wisest thing that I could do right now? And then tell yourself, do it. And then watch yourself do it.

SPEAKER_03 51:23

Thank you. Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 51:25

I know exactly what I'm going to do as we end the program. You don't have to tell us. You don't have to tell us.

SPEAKER_03 51:33

I will not share, but it definitely will be the wisest thing I could do in this moment and today.

SPEAKER_01 51:40

There you go.

SPEAKER_02 51:41

There you go.

SPEAKER_03 51:42

Yes, thank you. So good being with you so much.

SPEAKER_02 51:47

We'll see you again when you have a couple more podcasts and some, right?

SPEAKER_00 51:53

Indeed, indeed we do. So just building on this conversation is lovely. And you know, I want to of course let everyone know that the best gift of all of these podcasts will be that time when we get to spend live time with you at the end of June. Right. We'll be there on the third Sunday of June. And I will bring up my handy dandy calendar, which is the 21st of June. We get to spend that time with you, and all the information will be available in our show notes and on our website. And we're so excited to have these wonderful conversations and get more deeper into this wonderful gift that we have to have that control, to be in that. I'm so relaxed right now, I don't even know what to say.

SPEAKER_03 52:48

I feel the same way. I am so relaxed. I am just this has been a true gift. Thank you very much. Looking forward to the workshop. And this is uh one key. We will receive others. And when we get to the workshop, it's it will be mind-blowing in the best and most positive way.

SPEAKER_00 53:12

So thank you once again.

SPEAKER_03 53:14

Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 53:14

And if anyone has any questions, anything they want, you can always comment on these, uh, send us messages. We will make sure that we get you supported. And these kind of great conversations can extend not only in the workshops, but in our wellness community as well. So check us out, get involved, and we're so excited for our next conversation, Dr. Miller. Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_01 53:43

Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 53:44

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