What If Your Body Knows You’re Stressed First

Hypnosis has a branding problem. A lot of us hear the word and instantly think mind control, stage tricks, or losing our agency, which is exactly why it can be such a powerful mirror for what’s happening in our nervous system. After a weekend hypnotherapy workshop with Chris Pizzarello, we sit down to debrief what surprised us most: how quickly “control” and “resistance” show up, and how the body often says yes or no long before the mind can explain it.

We talk candidly about trust and safety, including how past manipulation and trauma can make hypnosis feel intensely intimate. One of us notices a deeper layer of resistance tied to being guided by a man, and we unpack what that reveals about subconscious protection patterns and how they can spill into relationships even when we consciously feel safe. If you’ve ever thought, “I trust you, but something in me still braces,” you’ll recognize yourself here.

From there, we connect hypnotherapy to stress relief in a practical way. We explore future-focused thinking, chronic risk mitigation, and fight or flight living that keeps the body on high alert. We also dig into the mind-body connection, brainwave states, and why hypnosis can function like body work: relaxation first, then new suggestions can reach the subconscious autopilot. Most importantly, we frame hypnotherapy as a process, not a quick fix, especially for patterns that have been reinforced for years.

If you’ve tried therapy, meditation, somatic healing, breathwork, Reiki, or other holistic healing tools and still feel stuck, this conversation may give you a new path to consider. Subscribe, share this with a friend who overthinks for a living, and leave a review with your honest take: what’s the first word you associate with hypnosis?

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Welcome To Holistic Healing

SPEAKER_00 0:01

Welcome to Healers Talk Healing, the podcast where we gather to explore the art and science of holistic healing, uncovering the secrets to a happier, healthier you. I'm your host, Nina Gangoli, and together we will delve into the intriguing world of holistic healing, delving into the mind-body connection, ancient wisdom, and natural remedies. Get ready for enlightening stories, thought-provoking expert interviews, and practical tips that will empower you to unlock your true potential and embrace a vibrant, balanced life. Whether you're an experienced wellness enthusiast or simply curious about the power of healing, join us on this exhilarating journey as we share the wisdom and insights that can truly transform your life. It's time to embark on a voyage towards a happier, healthier you. So, without further ado, let's dive into the captivating world of healers talk healing.

Workshop Debrief On Hypnotherapy

SPEAKER_00 1:00

Oh my gosh. So we're back again, just off of the weekend, uh, where Chris Pizzarello did his workshop on hypnotherapy. And you know, we've been having this series and having conversations with him, and it was just so cool to be able to come together as a group with with um others and learn more about hypnotherapy, a little bit of the history. Um, and the best part uh was the actual like exercise that he went through with us, a couple of things that he did to kind of show you, you know, that we are kind of in a we're in a state of hypnosis all the time, we just don't know it.

SPEAKER_01 1:49

Yes, that was and that was good to know as well. Really, and you don't even think about how we're always being hypnotized. Are we hypnotizing you guys now? Anyway, go ahead.

What “Hypnosis” Brings Up

SPEAKER_00 2:03

Well, he asked this great question, and um, for those of you who weren't able to attend or didn't attend, one of the things he asked is, What's the first thing you think about when you hear the word hypnosis? And you know, it was it was funny because the first thing that comes to my mind all the time is control, not mind control specifically, but control. And what I found was while he was doing the exercise, um, because you know, in the background, I was texting you because we're facilitating in the background, right? We're doing tech and making sure everything's working. I was like, this is not working for me. Did the ex he basically did an exercise, so I'll just share with the people um that you put your hands over your you interlock your hands, put it over your head, and then it's not gonna come apart. And mine just came apart right away. And I'm like, wait a minute, what's happening? And the first thing that happened was two things. I'm like, what's wrong with me?

SPEAKER_01 3:04

You know, which is nothing, of course.

SPEAKER_00 3:06

And then oh, oh, that resistance is so so strong because of that subconscious thing about control. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 3:20

Exactly. And I think that's that's such a brilliant realization. When you when he first asked that question, my mind immediately went back to some of the old classic movies from the 40s and the 50s, and where they have you know hypnotherapy going on, a lot of comedy acts have been around it, and it's like, okay, come on up on stage and cluck like a chicken, and you know, so but still the same thing. My uh orientation when I when he first mentioned that was immediately, oh, you're gonna take over my mind, and I won't, I'll do something, you know, stupid, silly, or someone can control you to the point where it's out of the ordinary for who you are as an individual, right? And excuse me, and I did not and never have wanted to have someone else be in control over my personal space, right? But I also understand and realize that with hypnotherapy, hypnosis, not just he, and he explained the difference between hypnotherapy and hypnosis, and so I I understood though that hypnosis is a way to assist you in rewiring your own brain, but in order to do that, you can't be a resistance. Now I am a resistance queen. If I was just gonna say, if God could come right here and speak to you in person it with with its voice, it would say, Yep, we have a dictionary in the academic words, it has Lynn's face on it that says resist it. And we're like your face would be mine. Right. We have a revolving carousel between these ladies. But the one thing I have learned um for myself is that in the act of hypnosis, when you trust the person, and that's a huge part of it, you do have to trust the person who's do who's doing the hypnosis. And when you trust them, then you're able to relax and just let yourself go, and then you can you know follow what's going on. So from my experience, as soon as he went through the interlocking hands and you know, taking them behind your head, I'm like, oh, this works phenomenally well. I'm like, oops, and that's a big tell. Okay, so I'm able to move out of resistance because I trust what he's doing. I'm safe in my own space in my own home. There's no one else around me at this moment. And locking my hands together and then, you know, completing the exercise is something that all right, that makes sense because it's just me here, and he's directing, and I trust him, so I could let my defenses and resistance down. And it was it was very powerful, actually, for me.

SPEAKER_00 6:43

What I really as as you're speaking, I'm remembering what I was thinking afterwards, as you know, because he did more than just that one exercise, it was the next exercise as well, where some of it worked, and then my I was just like, Nope. That's that's no, I could my body was like, Nope. Okay, so I'm sorry, go ahead. Yeah, so

Trust, Safety, And A Male Guide

SPEAKER_00 7:05

what I started realizing is wait a minute, I'm I and I really like Chris. It's not that I don't like him and I don't have a level of trust with his expertise and what he does. What I got and what was coming up in my head at the time was he's a man.

SPEAKER_01 7:21

Oh, now that's another interesting little thing, right?

SPEAKER_00 7:25

He's a man, and uh, you know, I have been controlled for many years of my life by a man, by his manipulation, by his grooming, and that kind of I guess now you can say like some sort of hypnosis or mind control. And so when I got off the when we were not on um the workshop anymore, I was like, huh, that is something I need to work on. So what was powerful for me was it was the resistance that had me open up to be like, that's so interesting, there's still some work to be done inside of being able to trust someone because to me that's so intimate. If you if I'm giving up control inside that inside my mind, it's a very intimate place where I still don't feel safe.

SPEAKER_01 8:28

Yeah, that's a big one, and I was just thinking, and that's something that he can perhaps help you through in hypnosis itself. The interesting aspect of that is if you did allow that, it would be a man who's helping guide and direct you into a place of not being manipulated or feeling manipulated by men. You see what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 8:59

And it's so funny that you say that because I can see how that's impacted um the relationship with my husband and how you know there's that there, I trust him completely consciously. Yes, but subconsciously, I can see where there's that still the gap. There's still a gap. Like, does he really have my back? Like, is he just trying to make me do what he wants me to do? Like, and not like anything aside from like I'm just processing this as we're having this conversation, but I know because I have shared with him before, I said, you know, there is a level of me that I haven't been able to access yet to have 1000%. I'm there's no more than a hundred, I know, but one thousand percent safety.

SPEAKER_01 9:52

That's pretty powerful, it's a great realization, and obviously, it's the next thing that you will personally be working on and working through yes, yes, I see it. I I

Stress, Anxiety, And Future Thinking

SPEAKER_01 10:05

have that same experience uh in reference to men in in other aspects, but I found and I really do understand that um in this process and going through it yesterday with uh Chris is that my largest challenge at this moment is being able to not be in a place of stress and anxiousness, and because of uh personal and professional, so many different uh situations that need to be handled, that are transitioning, that are shifting, that are moving, and all these different places. And part of my discovery was oh, you have been in flight and fight mode for the past year. Longer than that, but really for the past year it has been heightened. All right, what's next? Okay, let me let me anticipate the next thing that's that could happen that may happen, and how am I going to you know move or pivot or reposition things so that it'll be okay? And always being in a place of the future instead of being present, always thinking about okay, because you know, my my mom at this time is going through uh her own change and transition, and and uh my godmother received a call and she's not doing very well. In fact, after this uh podcast, I will have to rush over to the lab uh for with her. And so it's always, oh, what's okay, and what is that gonna show? What is the real what are the results gonna show? How how can we determine this so we can stop that? And doing that kind of that's part of what I call my own monkey brain, right? Not being present, but always with what's happening in the future. How what do I need to do to just be present and move out of the anxiousness, the stress that that brings on? I like the fact he he said uh something about um his teacher saying that we think stress affects the body, but the body stress, mental stress affects the body. And he said it's the body that really tells the mind that we're stressed because the mind doesn't know what it's doing, the mind cannot oversee itself.

SPEAKER_00 13:02

Yeah, I thought it was interesting too. Yeah, I did. I was like, oh, that's that's fascinating. I loved um, you know, the the participants, what uh they had shared and what they were getting out of it. I I think it was fantastic. Um you know, and I just I think that um most people don't think about hypnosis to help them with stress.

SPEAKER_01 13:28

It's true,

Brainwaves And Hypnosis For Stress

SPEAKER_01 13:29

they don't.

SPEAKER_00 13:30

You know, it's not the thing we talk about for stress, we talk about breaking habitual patterns, which is important absolutely. And you know, uh, you know, there's been a lot of conversations with the other podcast that series that we've done with Chris, and we've talked a lot about pattern interruption or creating new patterns. But one of the things that we've we didn't touch upon as much was how um you can use hypnosis to help with stress because it helps you to get into a more relaxed state. And he talked a lot about the different waves or you know, theta waves, beta waves. I think their gamma was in there, and I can't remember.

SPEAKER_01 14:11

Gamma waves, uh-huh. Uh beta, theta, gamma, and there was one other one, which now it's not coming to me, but yes.

SPEAKER_00 14:20

I can't remember either, but I think I have never thought about huh, if I'm living in a stressful environment or the environment around me is causing me stress to you know, work with someone who can help adjust the frequency that we're operating in, because what he was saying is we operate do we operate at a higher frequency and hypnosis brings it to a lower frequency? I can't remember, or if it's the opposite. But he's it's the opposite.

SPEAKER_01 14:56

We yeah, we often operate at a lower frequency, and hypnosis takes us to a higher frequency. And so what's interesting is you're right, when we're in an environment where there's stress, then hypnosis can assist us in being able to um be in a place of recognizing how we can shift even our perspective in terms of what's happening in that environment. And what I realize even as you're speaking now and from yesterday, is that for me, that level of stress always comes from what do I need to solve or resolve next? So it's a pattern of everything is is good, honestly. There's you know, it's flowing along and it's gonna flow how it's gonna flow, but I'm always looking for okay, but where can it be corrected? Where can it be better? What where can it be resolved? What you know, and so because that's part of my my mental pattern, it keeps me in a heightened state of stress when there are actually circumstances that are unfavorable happening and going on, okay um and so I'm sure a lot of people experience the it's a projection, the projected what's gonna happen next syndrome. So as opposed to okay, I'm in it right now, the fire alarm's gone off, hmm, this is a high stress situation. You just handle it, you do what you need to do in that moment, right? But I'm already thinking, oh, what would happen if the alarm goes off? Do I have this together and that together? And oh, can I how can I make it not happen? Oh, I'm gonna make sure that I have some clothes right by me. If I have to run out real quick, if I'm yep, I I get that.

SPEAKER_00 17:09

I think we all have a version of that running in the background. Like, you know, I feel mine is also the same way. I call it risk mitigation. My I'm always in risk mitigation mode. Okay, well, if this person acts this way, and then this happens that way, and then okay, how do I see the thing is my brain goes to how do I help people avoid pain? That makes sense. And that's stressful because you can't, you can't, you know what I mean? Right. I'm not in charge of how they avoid it, but I that's I know it's a trauma response. I know that pattern was created when I was very young, and it is what causes me the most stress. And you know, you and I have lots of personal conversations, and a lot of times you have to remind me you're not in control of that. And I'm like, don't, but I want to be.

SPEAKER_01 18:02

Exactly, exactly. Well, we we do have what I call a a matching picture with that. In other words, what our perception and pictures are of how the world should run and should be, uh, they match in different ways. And that is one of the ways in which we have that match.

SPEAKER_00 18:22

Right, like I've heard this so much, is like we're just shouldn't shooting ourselves all over the place.

SPEAKER_01 18:28

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 18:28

You know, they should be like this, they should be like that. And and I get in the end, that's about us and having ourselves feel our nervous systems feel relaxed. And I think that's where hypnosis can be such a valuable tool that I didn't even think about. You know, I've been thinking, you know, somatic work and breath work and all of the different body works. But as we're speaking, and the more it's all sinking in and the conversation is alive again for me, is that oh well, hypnosis is body work because the first thing Chris does is walk you through becoming relaxed.

SPEAKER_01 19:10

Exactly. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 19:16

Right, right, let's deep do some deep breaths, let's get you know comfortable in your body and the body then because the body does that first, then the mind can go, oh, we can relax.

SPEAKER_01 19:36

And when the mind relaxes, then the suggestions um that are provided can move into the subconscious more easily. Here's

Why Suggestions Don’t Always Stick

SPEAKER_01 19:52

the the thing too that I received from yesterday and had a little bit of in a little bit of knowledge about before is that your mind is not truly going to accept what it's either not ready to accept at the time, not sure is true for you, or what have you. It's there's there is a little, and that is where some of the resistance is, but it is in other words, if I'm trying to find the way to express this, if you are someone who does not want to walk around clucking like a chicken all day long, you're not going to accept the the suggestion that every time you hear a bell ring, you're going to cluck like a chicken.

unknown 20:47

Right.

SPEAKER_01 20:47

Your your mind will not fully accept that.

SPEAKER_00 20:52

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 20:54

Unless you are completely open to every and any suggestion, which some people are, and that's that's okay too. But when you're in a session for yourself to shift some of the patterns or the ways of thinking or the physical aspects that you experience, and you're clear that this is what it's going to do, then your mind will accept it more readily for you. So that, and and hypnosis having um a session is not a one and done. It may be two or three, maybe more, depending on whatever the pattern is, depending on how strong you've been running that pattern for how long, uh, how deep you allow it to go. But it's it's a way of shifting the mindset, if you will, or consciousness bit by bit. By bit, and so you go a little bit deeper. So you start on the surface, and it's like, okay, and then you it goes a little deeper and a little deeper until your brain says, Oh, this is what we know to be true, this is how we're doing things now. Okay, this is what we're gonna, this is how we'll keep moving forward, and that's when you know everything has shifted, and the body is uh affirms the fact that oh, we can be relaxed in this situation, where before you may have been, oh my god, what's gonna come, you know, and so and then you you discover in that moment, oh wow, you know, after doing those sessions, I I'm feeling good. I'm okay, I can flow with this. I don't feel like there's something I have to do with it or something I have to solve because it may come up, you know, that sort of thing.

SPEAKER_00 22:59

So yeah, go ahead. I was gonna say, I think what I'm hearing and what you're saying, which I didn't realize at the time, was it that hypnosis is a process. I did think it was like you go in, like you know, they sweep up everything, everything's swept up, all the dust bunnies, everything gets cleared up, and off you go. But it's true, if a pattern has been there for years and years and years, 45 minutes or however the long like to an hour session is not going to completely undo all of that deep-seated, unconscious way of being. Like him when he was talking about being on autopilot, right? Those patterns are on autopilot, you don't even know they're running. Right, right. I didn't realize until we were until after we got off the you know, stopped the workshop that oh, the reason I'm so resistant is partly because Chris is a man. And I'm like, ah, see, that pattern is still there because I've recognized it before. I recognized it in that you know intimate relationship with my husband. And I'm like, oh, there it's still there.

SPEAKER_01 24:12

And you discovered it on a whole nother level. Yep. And that's but that's also how our patterns are. You know, we think that we have this pattern, whatever it is, this behavior, and we again, this is why the mind can never really diagnose itself, okay? Just so we all know, yeah, no matter how much you diddle around in your mind thinking you're gonna do something different because you can control your mind, you can't. So let's just get that out of the way. And okay, so what you're speaking of is so poignant because we all have these patterns and these ways of being and driving our own selves crazy, if you will, because it's not about anyone else, right?

Deep Patterns Live In The Body

SPEAKER_01 25:08

It's just about us, it's all about me. Um it's due to a continuum of experiences for long periods of time, the more deep-seated patterns for long periods of time, by watching it, by hearing it, by having situations and circumstances come up that we've lived through that keep validating it, and then it becomes validated again, and then we see it over there, and it's happening again, and we see it over here, and over, and so then we move into a place of going, oh, yeah, this must be reality and it must be true. And then you meet someone else that doesn't have that context at all, that think and and is at a level of of awareness that's different from our level of awareness. And it's like, well, how can they be happy all the time? What what are they doing? You know, I'm a good person that you know that that that I'm not doing because every time I see them, they're hey, hey, and yeah, okay, so what's going on? What's going on is your experiences and your situations have validated your patterns that again may be driving you crazy. They have their own patterns that drive them crazy, different from yours, but the ones that drive you crazy don't drive them crazy. And so to you, it looks like oh, they're doing great. They're how how can I be like that? And vice versa, the what's driving them crazy doesn't drive you crazy. Nonetheless, all of these deep-seated patterns have been the groove, if you will, in the record has been made deeper and deeper and deeper, and it does go around in a circle and deeper, and here's another experience, and here's another person who's gone through it, here's another validation. Oh, here's another validation. Oh, yeah, I see that. Here's something else going on. Yeah, see, that's why that situation could be handled this way, and so it drives that that needle where that groove is so deep. One session, okay, one session of that that deepness will get you maybe about here, maybe. You still gotta get through all those that the other stuff that is created it. But when you do get to the the the surface of it, and you've been able to re pattern the way that your mind is thinking, the way that your subconscious is on autopilot, and the way that you behave, what's interesting is with the subconscious being the autopilot, the way that you are even doing things in your physical body, the the discomfort that you feel. I don't feel wow, you know what? I don't have that little clicky thing in my hip. It seems to be gone. Oh wow, my neck is huh, that's so much better and lighter. And then you start, oh, and people are like, wow, you don't you don't have that limp anymore, you know, you're not like this, and you don't even realize it because you've made those shifts. The brain is on autopilot, you're handling things differently, but your mind doesn't recognize that there have been total shifts that have taken place until it settles in the body, and that's the reason why Chris's teacher said the mind does not tell the body, the body is what uh uh lets the mind know, oh, there's a problem.

SPEAKER_00 29:18

Yeah, and if we want to get a little sciencey about that, if you think about it, you know, we have that um the reticular brain, the the the like you know, fight or flight safety brains, and that runs the show because we didn't have language, we weren't that developed. It was what you felt, right? Your body was giving you those signals, and then your brain was like, Oh, danger, danger, danger, you know, and a danger for us in these modern times are things like what is stressing you out, what are your worries? What are you know, they're high-level brain functions, but they're a high-level thought process, but your brain, it's it's like it's like the toddler is running the show for the adult, yeah, right? The toddler only has so much capacity to understand the world, and so you know, the toddlers running around, you know, we say monkey brain, but I would say like it's a toddler trying to cope with adult things, and the best way they know do is like you can't see me, right?

SPEAKER_01 30:20

Right, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 30:22

You can't see me, right?

SPEAKER_01 30:23

Yeah, I know that's a really good analogy, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:26

And

Adding Hypnosis To Your Healing Toolkit

SPEAKER_00 30:27

I think it's up this conversation and has spending all this time with Chris, um, who you know is a hypnotherapist and he does EFT and he's you know, he's trained in NLP, which is also very um based on language and how you process your your language and how it affects your body, all of that uh has been fascinating for me because it's not something I would have thought about using as a tool to help with the healing process. Yes, you know, first you think therapy. You go from therapy and then you realize after you know, coaching, therapy, all the things, all the things with all the wonderful healing heroes that they provide, all the different things. And what I'm you know, wanting to tell our listeners is that if you are in that spot where you feel like, oh, I've tried all the things, I've done this, I'm a Riki master, I do yoga, I do meditation, I do all of these things, I do somatic healing, I've done breath work, I've done this this gamut, think about hypnosis. It might be the thing that gets to the place in your body that hasn't been gotten to yet for you, for those of you who are still feeling stuck in patterns and ways of thinking and being that are not releasing or not allowing the healing to take place. Like I just found out I'm not allowing the healing to take place because you know, of Chris, you're a man. And I don't trust men at a certain deep, at a deep, deep, deep, like somewhere level, I don't know where. So I think that that's important for for us to be able to try something new, you know, work with someone like Chris who can maybe give you a different tool. Yes, because one thing he did say is we're always hypnotizing ourselves. We are so if we know how to leverage the thing that we don't know that we're doing, how much better could that be for everyone?

SPEAKER_01 32:49

Right, exactly, exactly. It really it's when I think about it, it I think of it in very simple terms. The subconscious does so many of the auto functions, the conscious mind are what we're aware of in the moment, you know, in every given moment, and the body responds in kind. And because it all and the emotions, because you know, once the the autopilot does certain things, your emotions are more reactionary instead of responsive. Your body, you know, does all kinds of tweaky little things. Um it's it is a whole unit, right? So as you can begin to change the autopilot responses through the process of hypnosis or hypnotherapy, then the hypnotherapy is the process. Hypnosis is the actual structure of it. So if you uh are able to reprogram the autopilot, which is the subconscious, in a way that supports what how you want to experience life in whatever area that is, or whatever way that is, it's a valuable, valuable tool. It really is.

Join The Community And Upcoming Events

SPEAKER_00 34:25

Yes, and that like with that, I'm I'm I'm thinking we've we've come to kind of like the end of our our conversation in our debrief of of yes, you know, of this wonderful workshop. It was it happened to be the first one that we had specifically on hypnosis and a series of different uh podcasts that we had with Chris, and I have learned so much, and I would implore our listeners to you know check it out, give it a try, listen to the the the three episodes that we did with Chris to even get a clearer idea. And who knows, we may have Chris come back again to do a workshop with us, and when he does, don't miss out on it. Uh, he was it was very informative, uh, and very interesting to see everyone's individual results inside of the work with the group.

SPEAKER_01 35:20

Yes, very experiential. Yes, and everyone had great feedback, which you'll be able to uh learn more about and receive their some of their responses to Chris's work in our upcoming newsletter as well as in other places that you'll be able to really discover what people are saying.

SPEAKER_00 35:45

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SPEAKER_01 37:31

Ours too, yeah. I I ditto everything that you just said. Um, the most exciting thing for me, and I hope all of you, is that if you're unfamiliar with some of the modalities, if you're really anxious to know more about how you can benefit from them, join the membership because our healing heroes are authentic and we know them all, we've vetted them, they are all uh extraordinary in what they do. And so, whatever questions you have, that's the place to be, that's the place to come together with everyone and be able to really delve deeper into your own personal journey of wellness and holistic health.

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100%. And I have one more thing to add. So if you're on the fence and you're not completely sure, hey, okay, I'm not sure about membership quite yet. Join us every first Saturday of the month where one of our practitioners or healing heroes, as we like to call them, facilitates meditation. It's at 12 noon Eastern Standard Time. It's no more than 20 to 25 minutes. And then afterwards, what we um are beginning to implement is just having a small debrief to get to know the community, to share, you know, your thoughts on meditation. Even if you have a question for the facilitator, they'll be able to answer. Uh, it won't be deep, deep, and long, long, but you might get that opportunity. So if that is something that you think, okay, well, let me check out, let me get a feel for it. That's one of the greatest ways to begin your journey with us through our through experiencing the global meditation. And that also go to the website and you can register for that there.

SPEAKER_01 39:34

Yes, absolutely. Well, thank you. This has been great. The debriefing has been wonderful. And uh also, as always, whenever we get together and we start chatting and uh talking about our experiences and what we've learned and what we recognize that we still have to learn and the work that we we have to do, uh, it's so much more powerful. And of course, uh everyone has an opportunity to elevate, and that's what this is all about elevating our our consciousness, bringing the life forward, the light forward, and uh as well as the life uh forward for the entire globe. For us as individuals, it starts with us and it goes out and actually shines and is vibrationally lifting the entire planet. So we always ask you to join us, and we're grateful when you do.

SPEAKER_00 40:35

And that's it. Until next time. Bye for now.

SPEAKER_01 40:39

Bye for now.

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