Healers Talk Healing Podcast

The Miracle of Trust: Navigating Your Inner Journey

Miracles Directory Season 2 Episode 3

Join us in this enlightening episode of Healers Talk Healing as we explore the transformative journey of trusting yourself and embracing your authentic self with our CEO, Lynne Herod-DeVergis. With over 30 years of experience in the metaphysical realm, Lynn shares her profound insights into the mind-body connection and the importance of self-trust in holistic healing. Alongside host Nina Ganguli, the conversation delves into overcoming resistance while emphasizing the role of gratitude and joy in personal development. 

Listeners will be equipped with practical tools to navigate their journeys, encouraging a mindset that embraces vulnerability and authenticity as strengths. By sharing her journey, Lynne highlights the power of community and the Miracles Directory as resources for those seeking spiritual growth and connection. This episode is a reminder that healing is a lifelong process—a blend of recognizing our experiences, expressing gratitude, and allowing ourselves the freedom to flow in life. 

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Speaker 1:

Welcome to Healers Talk Healing, the podcast where we gather to explore the art and science of holistic healing, uncovering the secrets to a happier, healthier you. I'm your host, nina Ganguly, and together we will delve into the intriguing world of holistic healing, delving into the mind-body connection, ancient wisdom and natural remedies to the mind-body connection, ancient wisdom and natural remedies. Get ready for enlightening stories, thought-provoking expert interviews and practical tips that will empower you to unlock your true potential and embrace a vibrant, balanced life. Whether you're an experienced wellness enthusiast or simply curious about the power of healing, join us on this exhilarating journey as we share the wisdom and insights that can truly transform your life. It's time to embark on a voyage towards a happier, healthier you. So, without further ado, let's dive into the captivating world of Healers Talk Healing.

Speaker 1:

Welcome to our inaugural podcast episode of Healers Talk Healing, featuring the remarkable Lynn Harrod-Divergis, the visionary founder of the Miracles Directory. Lynn's journey is a captivating blend of spiritual depth and practical wisdom, shaped by over 30 years in the metaphysical realm. As an esteemed energy healer, teacher and spiritual mentor, she specializes in guiding individuals on transformative self-development paths. Lynn's commitment to spiritual growth and helping others started in her early teens and has been the cornerstone of her life's work. Her journey includes significant professional achievements in economics and banking, yet she has always remained true to her spiritual calling. Today, lynn stands out as the heart and soul behind the Miracles Directory, a platform she created to connect, inspire and uplift those seeking spiritual and personal growth.

Speaker 1:

Spiritual and personal growth Her unique approach combines deep metaphysical insights with real-world experience, guiding people towards realizing their fullest potential in both their personal and professional lives. Join us as we delve into the inspiring world of Lynn Herod-Diverges, a true luminary in the field of spiritual and self-development. Luminary in the field of spiritual and self-development. Discover how the Miracles Directory and Lynn's expertise can empower you to design the life you've always dreamed of.

Speaker 2:

I was thinking of what we would talk about today but I've had very little sleep and my aunt's in the hospital and I don't know what kind of condition she's in right now. But I was just going to say you know, when you have that energy of I don't want to, that's resistance.

Speaker 2:

And it often is more of a feeling than it is. It's. We call feelings emotions, but we spoke about that before. It's more of a feeling in that moment in time, but it has nothing to do with anything other than the fact that your, your place of passion in that moment is maybe to stay in bed, nice and warm. Stay nice and cozy in the bed, and the passion is stronger than oh, I got to get up and exercise.

Speaker 1:

The noise is much louder than my want to live to 100 years old for sure in that moment.

Speaker 1:

In that moment in that moment, right and so so, welcome everybody you've. We have decided to press record in the middle of our conversations because they start off so powerfully. And then today, lynn said just press record, can, let's just start. So we've started. You're here with me, nina ganguly, and the esteemed wonderful ceo of miracles, ultimate wellness resources, lynn harrod, diverges, and we're talking about trusting and the esteemed wonderful CEO of Miracles, ultimate Wellness Resources, lynn Harrod-Divergis, and we're talking about trusting self. And you know, and all of the healing work that I believe that I've done, if I'm, you know, when I'm sharing, is all about creating.

Speaker 1:

Well, I used to think it was finding my authentic self and you know now maybe it has always been about that but also trusting that authentic self.

Speaker 1:

After years of being told who I should be, how I should act, what I should think, whether it's by parents or friends or society, I'm in that space now of discovering who I am and then trusting that. Trusting who I am, trusting myself to do what I say I'm going to do, um, being authentic, understanding what that is it's. It's interesting because I, the way I see it, it's like I'm growing up. You know, I'm coming out of this teenage girl syndrome, becoming a mature woman, as a friend, as a daughter, as a mother, as a wife Boy have I been immature in my marriage? For sure. That 15 year old girl is like. She shows up as soon as you try and tell her what to do or what to think. And it's just, it's interesting that what you're saying about, well, it's in that moment, in the moment of, nah, I don't wanna, it's the giving into that rebellion or losing focus for me, losing focus of what it is that I'm, I'm out to do, and the full goal is, or the full purpose of of what you're moving toward?

Speaker 2:

Sure, sure, yeah, sure. And the reality is, being your authentic self is something that everyone is all the time. So, all of this talk about, oh, I have to be my authentic self. I have to find my authentic self. Okay, I have to find myself being a woman of the age. I am no, you just are right. And so it's like you said, it's trusting, trusting who you are, and we all know that, from birth to and it's a continuum throughout our life, we are constantly being programmed for various things. And then, as we continue to grow and become um more mature, we move from 15 to 17. As we, as we go through that process, then we think, well, maybe the way I was thinking at that 15 year old self isn't really real anymore, because you have experiences, you have, um, uh, other things that you have been told, that you have done, that you have shared, that you've experienced, and so at those junctures, you are okay, I guess I have to find my real authentic self.

Speaker 1:

No, you're being authentic.

Speaker 2:

At that time you are still your authentic self. But when you move into those places where, when you move into those places where I'm going to say this I have to exercise, I have to eat the right foods, I have to this, I have to that, it puts us into a place where we start believing that that's exactly what we need to do in order to make the changes we have to make. And the truth is, when you can, in that moment, you feel what you feel be your authentic self and trust in where you are, at that moment you may discover I don't really have to exercise like that. I really don't have to eat or eliminate certain foods. I really don't have to anything.

Speaker 2:

What I can do is just be in this moment and experience what I'm experiencing. And, oh my gosh, the covers feel so warm and cozy because it's cold outside and you know what I can give myself this moment in a very authentic place, to do that. And then, when I move, to move, I will get up and I will then choose to do the things that I feel would be self-care, would be beneficial for my moving forward, that I can be in gratitude about. And as you start doing that, then joy comes. There's like an internal joy that, no matter what you feel, that joy is always going to be present. It's like it's it's so, it's deep, but it's always there and it always reminds you you're being authentic, you're doing what you need to do, you're where you need to be. Stop sweating it oh I'm.

Speaker 1:

It's like you're in my brain, like, okay, I'm just going to do this and then I'm going to reconnect to. For me it's like reconnect to the, the bigger goal for myself, cause you know, there's a constant chatter in here and I think everybody deals with that constant chatter, whether it's, you know, moving you forward, keeping you still, whatever, whatever it is, there is this constant I have to, which then means like it's not a choice if you say you have to right you, you believe it's not a choice and it's so funny because it's the thing that I've created.

Speaker 1:

I've created the schedule. I've decided this is what I want. It's's all about me and, uh, you know, if anyone has heard me talk in any other place, I talk about that rebellious me that I am, who, most of the time, whenever I put some sort of something in place, I'm like I don't want to. I put these two days aside to do this. I don't want to. And there is that piece of me, the, the grown-up part of me, the more mature part of me, the one that's more committed to I want I, I get to. This is going to be the end result is amazing. That gets to also step in and be like hey, I get, you don't want to. It's funny because my brain, for the longest time, didn't speak to. I didn't speak to myself way, I didn't acknowledge that I don't want to.

Speaker 2:

Okay, and most of us don't, because why? You're not supposed to have that attitude, you're not supposed to think that way. Yeah, exactly, but when you do, because I go into a lot of I don't want to. There are many things that you know, like all of us, I fully receive absolute pleasure in doing. And then there are those things where it's like, but I don't want to do that part, I don't want to do that now, you know, whatever it is. But the reality is, don't you find that, even when you don't want to, once you allow yourself to really move into that place and no longer resist it and trust who you are? In the experience it's like oh, my god, I got such a healing from doing that, or it was so wonderful. Oh, I feel so much better. I.

Speaker 1:

I, there's something that you said that's so uh, I don't know what the right word is, but it you hit the nail on the head, it's like that brings you joy. So then you go back into a state of joy and you can pat yourself on the back and do whatever you need to do to say, hey, yeah, you did that Absolutely. And that's where that trust, you begin to trust yourself. Or I've become I'm talking about me I begin to trust that. Oh, I'm going to natural. My natural way of being is I don't want to and I can't. I can't do that and I don't want to.

Speaker 2:

Okay, that's not really your full natural way, but usually the first time something comes to me that.

Speaker 1:

I don't want to, or I find it remotely. My brain thinks, oh, that's going to be too hard, too much effort, too much effort, too much time. This is, this is how my brain operates. Um, and the time I have, in the past, spent ruminating about I don't want to and I can't do that, and when I put that aside and I say, okay, when I'm not arguing with you anymore, we're just gonna do this well, you know what you can do, everything you're thinking in terms of what you can't do and the arguments that you have with yourself.

Speaker 2:

Just record it and then, when something comes up you can you don't have to think about it just hit play. And then you're like oh okay, I've just argued with myself, okay, I don't even have to, I don't have to do that anymore in my head you know, because it's right there, it's right there it's.

Speaker 1:

It's an interesting. I always find it it quite fascinating the way our brains operate or the things that we say to ourselves and how we try to convince ourselves that, you know, we really don't want to do something or we really can't do something. And you know, one of the things that I do is I've coined the term cantaholic. Many years ago about 10 years ago, I wrote a book called Confessions of a Cantaholic.

Speaker 2:

I really like that I had. I've never heard you use that term and all the time that I've known you, so this is interesting.

Speaker 1:

I'm a recovering cantaholic A recovering cantaholic.

Speaker 2:

Okay, okay, and most people are cantaholics.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and you don't realize. You don't realize the power in those thoughts and the that you know the choices that you make. I'm right now, I'm rereading the four agreements and reminding myself about, about well, he calls it a dream state. We can talk about the matrix and we can go into all kinds of discussions, but everything we see and feel and experience is everything that we have created and you've you've spoken about this too in in our past discussions which is you can choose to see a world full of possibility or you can choose to see a world full of obstacles, and I can't. Yes, for a very long time. That's the world.

Speaker 2:

That's, that was the view for which I saw the world and so many people, the what you're talking about and what you experience, what similar to things that I've experienced, although I don't experience it quite in the same way. But everyone goes through these different types of processes, internal processes, and you know I've not read the four agreements, but it is true, you can and that's part of our personal power always make the choice on how you choose to see, think about, act and do in the world and within yourself. That is just, that's our strength, that's our superpower. It's just that we have been programmed to believe that we're not able to access it or fully tap into it. Or, oh okay, there has to be effort in order to make that work. Oh no, I need to struggle to get there, or whatever the beliefs are. And it's not just because of what we've been told, it's because of what we see, it's because of what we've experienced in different ways. It's because of and when I say what we see authority figures and other figures when we're young, what they've dealt with, what they've gone through, how it's affected us, how we've dealt with it from a feelings level, all of that. But we always still have, of course, the choice.

Speaker 2:

A friend of mine asked me last night we were chatting, and so she has a wonderful group. We get together every two months and she said I'm going to ask everyone in the group this time what makes them joyful. And I was thinking about that, and this piggybacks a little bit into what you were talking about. When one is in a state of joy and you can find that pocket in every moment that allows you to experience joyfulness, then the canaholic stuff goes away. Right it just you cannot be. Or let me put it this way, two forms of energy cannot be in the same space exactly at the same time. In the same way. Something has to give somewhere. If you are experiencing your joyfulness in every way possible, then you're able to see and choose from that perspective of.

Speaker 2:

I feel uncomfortable with this, but I know that I can do something about that. I can choose differently. There is a solution, there is a step that can be taken. I just need to, for this moment, be in a place of joyfulness. And so how do you get into joyfulness, thinking about all those wonderful things? I hear Julie Andrews and the sound of music singing in my head right now. You know all of the wonderful things, right? So we can think about those things in the moment, just kind of make that shift or that little adjustment. We can also move into a place of connecting with what it is we truly choose to see ourselves being in the next moment and the next moment and all those moments that lead up to next month, next year, 10 years from now, okay and experience the joy in that we can tap into how we want to experience ourselves and how we want others to experience us as well. And so there are all these different ways.

Speaker 2:

And so when she was asking me that question last night, I had a pat answer for it, but this morning in meditation. You know, I'm always in meditation one way or another, one way or another, but this morning in meditation what came up was hmm, I experience joy most of the time because I am in in my head and in my being always saying, oh, I am so grateful for it has become such a habitual habit that's redundant, but you understand what I'm saying anyway. It's, you know, it's always being in that place of gratitude. I'm so grateful that we're able to have this conversation. I'm so grateful that in this conversation, we and anyone else listening for those that are in that space are able to grow and and learn and gain something from it. I am, you know, grateful for being able to be in a nice, warm environment right now and not in a cold blizzard. You know, it's like there are so many different things. You're not in a cold blizzard.

Speaker 2:

It might be outside, but I guarantee you where you're sitting right now it's not cold, right. So you give thanks for that. That's what I'm saying. Yes, so those are ways to really be in a place of joy. So then, what are you joyful for?

Speaker 2:

And, as I was in my process, I'm like, oh, I'm joyful every time I see a butterfly emerge from a cocoon. I emerge from a cocoon. I'm joyful when I see someone who may have been in a place of anger or grief or despair move through that and find that place within them where they are joyful and or they're at peace. I experience joyfulness when I can just sit and have a glass of wine and watch a great movie with my husband. You know it's like the and all. There are so many ways to experience joyfulness. So I believe and to be grateful for all of those moments. So I believe that when you go into a place where you're like I can't, I don't want to, no, I just don't want to, you can in that moment, say I am so grateful that I can even choose not to.

Speaker 1:

Oh, my gosh, you're so right. I just had an aha moment, because there are moments when my eyes open Most of the time. That I don't wanna and I can't usually happens when my eyes open and my brain turns on and thinks about all the things that have to get done throughout the day. But one of the things I have been missing and I'll just tell one on myself is to realize I actually am so blessed that I get the choice to say I don't want to do this right now, because many people they don't have the choice, so to speak, for.

Speaker 1:

Oh, you know, I have X, y, z things that I need to get done. I don't have to do it at eight in the morning if I don't want to. That's true. I could literally do it at noon or some other time, so long as I am, you know, meeting the requirements of the meeting deadlines and doing the things that I have given my word to doing, so long as they're getting done. Not everyone has that ability or that opportunity and I am truly grateful. I am truly grateful for the flexibility that I have in my life and the support systems that allow that flexibility, you know.

Speaker 1:

You know even the way that we work together. I'm so grateful because I've been in a place where I wasn't able to work the way that I work best. So it's. It is something to be said about. Yes, okay, I might not want to, you know, and I remember going through a training program where the leader of the classroom was saying that is her way of being. Almost every single moment of her day, she just wants to be in her pajamas and watch tv and, you know, not try and transform or change the world or be a leader, and and that's okay too, that's okay. If that is absolutely is your natural state of being is like, yeah, I, I just want to be on a beach and have a mai tai, which you know is my natural state.

Speaker 2:

It's like I know that's your net.

Speaker 1:

Now that is your like every time someone says go to your happy place, I'm on a beach doesn't always have to be with the Mai Tai, but I am definitely on the beach with the sun on my face and I do get many, many opportunities to live my life there and I, um, and so what? Let me just go back again and say what she was saying is like you can have that running in the background still and say, okay, that's, that is just your, you just want to be on a beach. Okay, great, and and oh, but no anything else. And you know there's also a part of you, oh for them, for me, there's a part of me that makes to be of service. You know I can be on the beach, but that at some point even my mind starts being like, okay, now I'll do something else.

Speaker 2:

Well, you know, and that's, and that's also the other aspect Imagine yourself lying on the beach and, for those that are listening, imagine yourself being in a place or doing something that you love, and you do it for a day, and it's wonderful. And you do it for three days and like, wow, yeah, this is still good. And you do it for a month, and you do it for three months the same thing. And you do it for a year. And you do it for three months, the same thing. And you do it for a year and you do it for two years. The the truth of it is, at some point you'll go. Okay, really, I'm done with this now because we're growing in dynamic human beings.

Speaker 1:

We really don't love homeostasis.

Speaker 1:

I think like that whole that's true, that's my point yes, our bodies are constantly like we could be lying on the beach, yes, and do the same thing every day, but something inside of us is constantly continuing, changing and morphing and you know doing whatever it's doing. So you're right, because I remember, I remember um praying so hard. I want a specific job, I want this job, I want this job. It was an internal job and I wanted. I did everything I knew I needed to get that job and I was so happy, it was so wonderful and fast forward, 10 years later and I was like I hate this job, I don't want this job anymore. I was like and I remember saying to the to God at the time I'm like, I'm sorry, god, I know I said I really wanted this and I'm so grateful that I got it, but now it's time for something else.

Speaker 2:

Now it's time for something else and and it's, it's okay all of that is okay, is okay your authentic self that speaks to you, that guides you from your heart, from your mind, and the balance and harmony between the two. And when you ask for that and it shows up, you can also determine. Well, how long am I supposed to be here, how long am I to experience this before I need to move on to something else or another place? And I guarantee you you will speak to that, which also means you will have if you don't go into resistance like I did you will have an opportunity to enjoy where you are be grateful for, where you are, knowing that that experience in that way has a certain expiration date. Okay, you may not even know that where you are now with the job is going to morph into something else that, oh my God, this is, it's just, I have to get out of it.

Speaker 2:

So, before you get to that point, yourself may say, okay, you've got six years here, and then time to you know, move on. And you may feel what, why? This is the, this is the conversation with yourself, right? Why am I thinking that? Why am I feeling that way? Does that make any sense? I don't know. I don't even know what's going to happen six years from now. What I envision where I'm going to be is as an executive vp la la.

Speaker 2:

And yet what your true self says six years is the length of time for this experience, because I have something more expansive, something greater, something different for you, and this is part of the step that's going to get you where you're really needing to go. And so if you do that and don't resist and I have been the queen of resistance I don't say I don't, I'm not a cantaholic, but I was a resistaholic. You know, when there's that point where you just give into it, then it's like, oh my God, and that's where, also, not only is there joy, but that's where flow happens. That's where real flow happens. You don't even have to try to do something, you can have the thought connected to your true self. In that moment, you have the universal mind that knows it to be true. All of this comes in to balance and into harmony, and then things just start popping off. It's like within hours, days, things happen. They just keep happening. So that's why I wanted to share.

Speaker 2:

You know, when you were talking about you love the job, you asked for it and wait, I don't think so, to avoid those moments of I don't think so. How did I get myself here? Why did this happen to me Well, but you know when you are in gratitude, it's a moment of and how long is this going to be this way? When will it be time to pivot? And you may not get the exact time, but you will receive a deeper knowing, a sense, uh, um, the, the visceral experience. However you get it that, oh, this is good for three years, or whatever it is.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's interesting that you say that you know and this it's. It's interesting because I think when I was, I think, at year seven, I heard in my, in my mind, 10 years 10 years.

Speaker 1:

At some point you're going to get it 10 years and I'm not kidding you to almost to the date of 10 years. About two months before two or three months before 10 years, I had to make a decision whether I was going to stay or I was going to take an offer that I couldn't refuse. And so it led me to where I am now today. And so, you know, it led me to where I am now today. And had I not taken that offer or, you know, had I stayed, I would have been a very unhappy, probably very sick human.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I was going to say your body would take on so much of the disharmony, that and, as we say, dis-easiness or disease that it would have manifested itself in your, in your physical body also, your emotional body. So, and who who needs that? So I'm just kind of sharing little tidbits on what we can do when we're where we tap in, and that can mean at a time of reflection, when you wake up in the morning. It can be a meditation, it can be taking some breaths, it can be just allowing yourself to be open to the messages that come from within and that the universe want to share with you. And so, in the more that you practice that and that's something that's important for you to trust yourself to receive.

Speaker 2:

That's where trust comes in. Can I trust that what I'm receiving is true? And if you trust that it is, it's amazing how, again, you're more in sync with you know what's happening. And then all the can'ts become oh. Not only are they cans, but they are, will do, they are absolute, they are, oh, have done, oh, you know that's what they become, and it's it's.

Speaker 1:

It's so funny that you say that because I remember someone telling me that's really how your brain works, like you, because I would never know, because you do this and this and this and they just see the outside and you know. So I want to share that with people because you may see a powerful, strong person around you and not realize that you know they are in their brain saying, I, I can't do that, no one's going to listen to this, this is not good, like no, and you know and you work beyond it. Right, you do begin to trust yourself, or process, or you know you said you're a resistaholic and you know this what resist, what you resist, persists. So there's no other options. But I will say from experience, and what you're teaching and sharing with us today is when you trust the process and trust yourself in the process, because many of us who, when we do step into listening to ourselves, listening to our intuition, connecting to our higher selves, I have, I still do this.

Speaker 1:

Is that me? Is that just my conscious like? Is that just my ego talking, or is that like my innards? Is it? Am I trusting my innards as well? Is that voice like? Is that my voice? Is that the voice of the universe? And then we don't trust. We don't trust that we can trust it, and it's this vicious cycle of insanity. But, okay, when you intercede and be like, okay, everybody, because there's many of them in my head, so everybody, just do be the next thing like, or the thing that you are right now exactly usually, usually actually I feel a lot lighter when I can just say okay, I'm saying this right now.

Speaker 1:

I've never said it everyone, but truly it's like a million different voices in my head and and the reality is, there's a purpose for the ego.

Speaker 2:

There's a purpose for the consciousness, conscious mind, the subconscious mind, the super conscious, which is where spirit dwells. There's a reason why the heart and the, the energy of the heart, is even more powerful than that of the brain. Okay, um, and why? And how they make up the energy field. There's a reason for all of that. Do we need to understand all of it? Not necessarily. We think it helps us In some cases, and the way some people process it does, but not necessarily. All we need to know is that we are full integrated beings. We are full integrated beings that are able to make a choice and if we move out of resistance, else flows. And that's it. It's really just that simple yeah, that sounds I think complicated about it.

Speaker 2:

It takes a minute to get there, though because we have to go through all of our stuff, you know.

Speaker 2:

But it's interesting because I find myself in a particular situation this month, which I know, you know about that. I'm, you know, uh, working through and, yes, my brain says I really am ready to, like, do these things, and yet at the same time it's like, but now is not the moment, it shall be, it is when it is, and so don't be in resistance, just continue to do what it is that you're doing and it will manifest. So it's just a way to flow through all of that. So I don't have a lot of the angst and the what have you.

Speaker 2:

I do get stuck a little bit on certain vibrational energies yes I do, I'll admit that, but it doesn't mean that that can't change or shift, or morph, you know uh, in a different way and I think that's not I'm not going into specifics right now, but I but it's, it's really. It's really about being able to flow yeah, and you know what.

Speaker 1:

One important thing for our listeners is to understand that you don't have to know how, and that's true. You know there are people in the world that can support you, that can help you. I mean, that's part of what we're here to do in conversation, so you can expand your mind and your thoughts as well. As you know, we have a wonderful online site that has healers on it. Through, you know the miracles, ultimate wellness resources you can find. You can find someone to help, you can listen to the podcast you can listen to, you can watch our experts, and I think that's important to say, too, that none of this is work that you have to do alone.

Speaker 1:

While it's all an inside job you have to do, someone else can't do the work for you, right Else can't build trust for you. There has to be the willingness for you to want to, and I'll say that's that is one thing that I know about myself. I, even though I don't want to, comes and I resist and I can, but overarching all of those thoughts is always the willingness to yes to try to overcome, to try to, you know, be the best version of myself, because that's what I want.

Speaker 1:

I'm not saying everyone has to walk around me like I want to be the best version of myself. That's not what I'm saying. Right, it is If you have something that you want to do someone, somehow you want to show up in the world, you know it's it is. It's. It's not as easy as us having a conversation that magically walk away and all of this stuff works.

Speaker 2:

You have to do the work, you do have to do the work, you do, and sometimes the work Okay, let me back up a little bit when you have that sincere, true desire, as you do, as I do and so many of our listeners do to grow and to transmute energy Transmuting is like transmuting anger into love. So I, just so people understand what I'm referring to so, when there's the desire to be in that place of growth in these various ways, yes, it is important to consciously choose and make choices where you are on that path and doing the work. But as it is so ingrained as it is, so your core, your real, authentic self, you will grow, even unconsciously. And when you hear, maybe, a conversation like what we're having now, or you hear so many other wonderful people and healing heroes out there, and you find that, wow, I just heard this and all of a sudden, things changed, I didn't have to do any work, well, the reality is, you've been doing the work the whole time.

Speaker 2:

You may not have been conscious of it and you were ready for that cherry to be popped and somebody said something, or you did one little exercise and bam, it happened, and so, and we all have those kinds of experiences, as well as the ones that are like oh, it's so hard, but the hardness, the, the struggle, all of that is nothing more than a lack of trust, being in resistance, not wanting to.

Speaker 2:

It's all of those different things. I don't know if I can. It's all of that stuff that creates the struggle to begin with, and what I'm saying is put down that sword, take a deep breath, find that place or that space within you where you recognize joyfulness, be grateful for that in the moment and then allow yourself to make a choice when you ask the question how long in this experience? What next to take me where I want to go? How can I for the solution? And then you'll find that things start to come more into harmony with each other. I want to tell you something else too. I've been talking a lot about programming and all of that. I think another thing that many of us do when we go into all this internal dialogue is we continue to see, hear and experience things from outside of us, from other people and other sources and other places, and go oh my.

Speaker 2:

God, really we do that no.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I, I didn't know that. Oh, okay, well, I'm not going to do that anymore. George Burns for those of you that are old enough to remember who he was, and if not, look him up George Burns and Gracie Allen, his wife. George Burns lived to be over 100 years old, and every single day that man smoked a cigar or cigars and he had a glass or two, or three or maybe five of whiskey. So if it were true in reality, that man should have passed away when he was 40.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

He lived to be 100 or more. Now, that's not to say that. Really define what works best for you and what doesn't, and what anybody else says, what anybody else thinks. Whatever is being spouted and touted out there, leave it out there, acknowledge it, accept that that was what works for other people, but it's not necessarily what works for me, and so I can continue to flow. I don't have to be in resistance. I can experience joyfulness, I can be in gratitude, even if it's not popular, because somebody else is going through an unfortunate situation. I can empathize with you. I can assist and serve to help in that situation or to provide, you know, in that tragedy. Of course I'm now thinking about the LA fires, feelings, the sense of what everyone else is saying should happen and how I need to do this and do that. I don't have to take all of that on. Nobody does. None of us do so. Anyway, it is important to like put down your sword. I'm asking everyone just put down your sword.

Speaker 1:

It doesn't have to just put down it doesn't have to be a fight doesn't have to be a fight yeah, I just have to be in this conversation.

Speaker 1:

I think the thing that I've walked away with is it doesn't have to be a fight, right, it's, it doesn't have to be a fight. You can come from a place of gratitude, connect to the, whatever it is. You declare you have the intention for your life to literally put on the cone of silence. I'm aging myself now. You know, put the cone of silence on, you know, get smart and then just be in a place where you can let go of everything else and from that, that place and I'm getting you know one of the one of the greatest places to do that is through meditation, to just let your mind quiet, let it open up to whatever's there, to let go of the resistance. And I would say another thing that can help people is to journal. That helps a lot to just get it all out, you know, and and and just yeah, there's so many ways yes, there's so many ways to just to just release.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the the way that I learned meditation and part of my meditation, although I've incorporated other things into it as well. But one of the biggest things is learning how to release and doing it so consistently where it is a habit. You you wake up in the morning and you're going to brush your teeth. You know you don't even think about I'm not going to brush. You don't forget to brush. You know it's like because after a while you're like, oh okay, I need to brush my teeth, right. So when you practice releasing and letting go and there are specific ways and techniques in which to do that, what happens is over time and I have found with me doing this over four years.

Speaker 2:

When I move into a certain place where I have a lot of anxiousness or I have different thoughts or feelings that are not productive to how I want to move forward, I immediately not only use that technique, but I immediately think, lynn, let it go.

Speaker 2:

And as soon as I think let it go, it's gone, because I have been practicing it for so long that even the thought, even the me saying out loud, lynn, let it go, is let go of.

Speaker 2:

I don't, I don't hold on to it anymore.

Speaker 2:

And so that's something that I feel that you know when we were talking at the beginning of all of this conversation in terms of consistency be consistent in letting go of those energies, the feelings, the thoughts, whatever it is that comes up for you in a certain moment that you believe is restricting, holding back, holding down yourself from moving forward in the way in which you choose to move forward.

Speaker 2:

And so, when you learn how to let go of that and then find your joyful place or places in terms of thoughts that can emote the feelings, or you connect with the feelings, that then may bring up certain visuals and memories, however you do it, as you start doing those things, you'll find that you will be and, of course, gratitude for all of it. No matter what you're experiencing, no matter how awful it feels or how magnificent it feels, still be grateful for the experience because it allows room for growth and to transcend. We're all here to keep transcending and transcending and transcending and transcending, and so be grateful for that process, whatever it feels like, looks like, thinks like, is like, and then you move to a place where you pretty much flow.

Speaker 1:

You can let go.

Speaker 1:

And I think this is where we round up our conversation, because I think it's it is. This was a wonderful conversation to have and, for those who are listening in, you know, please like, comment, share. If you're watching on on YouTube, if you're on Spotify or listening in, we'd love for you to share this, share your thoughts. We want to know. Do you have any questions? Are there any topics you want us to talk about? Because you know we're here for you, or, or, literally, we're just pressing record to normal conversations that we have.

Speaker 1:

By the way, these conversations that we're having, I want to let you know, are not just something we show up and record. This is precursor to every one of our meetings. I think every time we come to work together, we are actually like oh so what's going on with you and what's going on with you? And then we have all of these elevated conversations and I'm so blessed because I get to walk away being elevated, and not only just my personal life, but also my business life and all of these things. So, you know, we're just letting like, pulling the curtain back to conversation, Because, let me tell you, we have like maybe a 30 minute meeting scheduled, which or regularly, turns into an hour and a half of let's talk about this. You know, this thing that's going on and this thing that's going on and I love it and I'm so grateful.

Speaker 2:

So I do too. Thank you, I do too.

Speaker 1:

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