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Healers Talk Healing Podcast
The Healers Talk Healing podcast invites you on a transformative journey towards holistic healing, where we explore the mind-body connection, natural remedies, and ancient wisdom to empower you to live a vibrant and balanced life. Join us as we share inspiring stories, expert interviews, and practical tips to help you unlock your true potential and embrace a happier, healthier you.
Healers Talk Healing Podcast
Unveiling the Drama of Life: A Journey of Awareness and Connection
What if life isn't just a series of random events, but a game with rules we've subconsciously set for ourselves? Join Lynne and I as we unravel the intricate web of drama in our lives, likening it to the virtual reality of "The Matrix." Drama, with its allure of dopamine hits, can be both a response to trauma and a shared illusion shaping our perceptions. We explore how this self-imposed construct can obscure our understanding of reality and highlight the privilege of experiencing multidimensional growth as creative beings capable of shaping any reality we desire.
Reflecting on the emotional turmoil witnessed during the devastating fires in Los Angeles, we delve into the complex emotions tied to experiencing trauma from a distance. Despite being untouched by the immediate physical impact, the emotional entanglement and grief were profound, demonstrating the influence of shared experiences. We discuss the role of community and resilience in navigating such chaos and emphasize stepping back to observe from a neutral place. Understanding that change, often accompanied by drama and fear, is an integral part of life's evolution, can empower us to support one another practically and emotionally.
In our journey toward self-discovery, we explore the power of self-awareness and reflection in shaping our interactions with the world. Personal anecdotes highlight how avoiding constant news drama can enhance mental well-being, and we reflect on Viktor Frankl's teachings to draw connections between our reactions and inner selves. Our perceptions and beliefs, reflections of a broader universal energy, are expressions of the same source. By embracing the oneness of existence, we can transform our perceptions, creating a balanced and vibrant life. Join us as we embark on this transformative journey of healing and interconnectedness.
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Welcome to Healers Talk Healing, the podcast where we gather to explore the art and science of holistic healing, uncovering the secrets to a happier, healthier you. I'm your host, nina Ganguly, and together we will delve into the intriguing world of holistic healing, delving into the mind-body connection, ancient wisdom and natural remedies to the mind-body connection, ancient wisdom and natural remedies. Get ready for enlightening stories, thought-provoking expert interviews and practical tips that will empower you to unlock your true potential and embrace a vibrant, balanced life. Whether you're an experienced wellness enthusiast or simply curious about the power of healing, join us on this exhilarating journey as we share the wisdom and insights that can truly transform your life. It's time to embark on a voyage towards a happier, healthier you. So, without further ado, let's dive into the captivating world of Healers Talk Healing.
Speaker 1:Welcome back to another episode of Healers Talk Healing. Today, lynn and I are peeling back the layers of a fascinating topic drama and its surprising impact on our lives. We're diving into the illusions, pretenses and even the thrill of being caught up in drama. Whether it's the gossip, the storytelling or the dopamine hits that come with it, drama has a way of weaving itself into our daily lives. We reflect on how this dynamic plays out, why it's so enticing and how we can shift our perspectives to move beyond the allure of drama for the sake of healing and growth. So join Lynn and me as we explore the deeper truths behind drama, what it means for our emotional well-being and how we can rise above it to live with clarity and intention. Let's dive in. So it's so funny because we always do some preamble before we start recording and I'm like why didn't I just hit record first? But as you were talking, I'm going to just start it from here with like am I the drama? Like, am I the drama? Like, am I the drama?
Speaker 2:yes, you are that you, you, no, you are not the drama.
Speaker 1:You are in the um, illusion and the pretense of being the drama, or in drama, or loving drama, or creating drama and drama for the sake of drama's sake and it's so funny that you say that because I just recently realized how much being in that space, um, like it's, it's a bit of a thrill because I saw this real about drama and dopamine hits and being involved in other people's drama or like the whole gossip thing. You know, like the gossiping or just being in drama, getting reeled into other people's drama, creating your own drama, that fix that you get in, um, as what? For whatever reasons they were saying you know it's a trauma response, which obviously it can be, or whatever reason it is, but what you're saying is something additional to that which is it's there's an illusion behind the drama or the fix of it, or just, you know, for the heck of it.
Speaker 2:And drama itself. It's an illusion. So, if you remember the Matrix, I think most of us have seen the movie at least once, if not 15 times, depending on who you are like me, on who you are like me. And so the matrix really was the first example in media and entertainment that alluded to the fact that everything around us is illusion, that it's a construct, is something that we, um, create within our mind, that then is projected externally and everyone then agrees upon it, and so it appears real.
Speaker 2:that's a construct okay that's the construct we live in and it's not reality. It is all an illusion because it's a construct of what we've dreamt of, that we have expressed and therefore, as a whole on this planet, agreed upon in various forms and ways. That appears to hold it together and make it solid and therefore it's real. But it's not. It's honestly not.
Speaker 1:It's funny that you say that I was. I took some personal development and one of the one of the distinctions or constructs that they created for us is life is a game and life is a game and we make up all these rules and then we forget that we made up these rules and we play like it's like it's the thing, like we. The rules can't change. You know you, the the construct that we create is that it is what it is. There is no flexibility, there is no nothing outside of these rules that we created and then we forget. And also an alignment with what you're saying is that it's empty and meaningless and therefore the only meaning that is in life is what you put to it.
Speaker 2:Yes, and the and what you put to it, yes, and the reason we have these constructs is because, as beings like beings period, nothing else as, like beings, the bodies, the physical bodies that we have constructed, the physical world that we have constructed, are all a means of expressing different aspects of our beingness, giving it some other forms in which we're able to grow from, in which we're able to grow from and which we're able to expand. And growth does not mean growth as an elevation. Growth means expansion. It is not linear, but it is fully dimensional and it's in its way of being okay.
Speaker 2:And we all have the privilege, the blessing of being able to experience the constructs that we're in and that we've created, and that we have all of these different ways of growing and learning and being and experiencing.
Speaker 2:And it's a blessing, because it's also a blessing in how we have made the choice to keep growing, to keep expanding as beings that are part of the whole.
Speaker 2:And when you also think of it in those terms, there are many things you can consider that are so phenomenally beautiful in what has been created. And, yes, there are things that maybe don't appear to be so beautiful to some of us or that aren't so wonderful and light and fluffy and whatever BS Miss Lynn here is speaking, light and fluffy and whatever BS Miss Lynn here is speaking. But even in that, what I believe is important to understand is that true reality is who we are. True reality is that we can create any construct that we choose and because we have the ability and the power to do that, we are able to shift, change, transform, which is what miracles to have happen in our life. Really, that's the bottom line. There is, however, as we were talking before we started this particular conversation or I should say we're moving deeper into continuing the conversation many people that get a fix get kind of a high on drama.
Speaker 2:I believe that more and more and more today that drama has been exploited, has been elevated has been elevated has been fed to us has been demonstrated to us in ways that keep us hooked television, news, social media that you turn on, that doesn't have some level of drama somewhere that's constantly and continuously in our face, in our face and there's all the oh. What's going to happen next? Oh, are we going to move out of that? Is that going to be better? Oh, will they get better? Oh well, I'd handle it this way.
Speaker 2:Oh well, this is whatever it is and it makes us experience feelings that hold us in drama. Oh, I'm angry about that. Oh, I'm so sad that that's what's happening. Oh, my God, I feel guilty because my life is so much better. Oh, you know, whatever it is right, hooked into and that we hold so tightly onto, that then keeps feeding us and beating us. And, yes, I'm guilty of the same thing. There are just some things that are like oh, I mean, you know full disclosure. Yes, I like dark films. There are specific reasons for that, which I'll share a little bit later. But yes, I do, not only for the drama's sake, but other things as well.
Speaker 2:But when we are able to take a step back and say, from a real neutral place, as much as possible, okay, you know what I'm separating myself from what I see or hear or even experience. In this moment, let me step back and I'm just going to be in this moment, to be in this moment. And in this moment I am feeling all these feelings. But do I have to give those feelings action, life and breath? You don't have to. You can make a choice to go. You can make a choice to go. I'm not going to give that feeling a sense of breath and life that then festers and grows and festers more and grows more. And now I'm expressing it and now I'm fully in the experience of it. And now, now, now, now, you don't have to do that. You can choose not to.
Speaker 2:I didn't say it was easy, I didn't say something that's a cinch. I'm just saying that we do have that choice and we have the power to do that too. And so when we sit back and we can really observe from a neutral place, oh, that's happening to them over there. I don't have to get caught up in that, because you know what? I? I'm good, I'm taking the kids to, you know, volleyball practice, and that's that's. No, that's not my experience right now, because in this present moment I am having a different experience. So when we become neutral like that, even when we are in some deep stuff, we can then make a choice, a decision that what we want to do is elevate ourselves to a place of what would bring me the greatest sense of joy in this moment, now for me, and and when you move into those kinds of decisions, then there's a level of reality that comes into play that allows you to experience something different, and the full beingness of that experience is what is more real than the bits and pieces of the construct that we get sucked into. I don't know if I'm explaining this well, but there is a little bit of a separation there.
Speaker 2:So when I saw the fires in LA and living here in LA, many of the neighborhoods and the areas that were on fire are places that I frequented throughout the city and county of LA, which included the Palisades, malibu, pasadena, altadena, runyon Canyon, where I'd go hiking, which is right next, literally in Hollywood Boulevard, that almost had fire. There's a small fire around another neighborhood called View Park, baldwin Hills, which was very critical because there are a lot of oil wells up there, so thank God that was contained In any event. I'm watching this on television. The area I live in is surrounded by it. Yet we were not experiencing what other people were experiencing because, as a basin, the wind would come in and blow everything out. So we did have blue skies, we did have beautiful clouds, we did have no ash, no smoke, no evacuations, no power outages. It felt like the twilight zone, but I was completely caught up in the drama of the fires. I was watching on television and could not turn it off. I'm watching restaurants. I frequented places where I used to go and play and hang out, places from high school where we played the other high school and we had games there. You know a lot of my childhood and also adulthood.
Speaker 2:All of these places burning and burning down to the ground, and what I was experiencing in all of that was so much grief and sorrow. It's like, oh my God. I felt like the history within my life was completely gone and just done. And how could I recover from that Now? I did not lose my home. I did not literally experience more viscerally what so many did, that. I know who did lose their homes, who did have to evacuate, who, as a result, a couple of people now have asthma because of the extreme air quality condition, I didn't experience that I could empathize with them.
Speaker 2:But when I made a choice after watching this happen over four days where it was most intense, watching this happen over four days where it was most intense, and I finally said I'm saturated, I have to turn this off, I can't. I can't. I can give money to people that I love and know and help them. I can give so many things I have in my house that I don't use, don't need, and even if I do, they need it more at the shelters. I was able to do those things.
Speaker 2:But what I discovered in that moment is that I was so caught up in the drama of what was happening and moving into that feeling of the victimhood to such a deeper extent that I realized at that present time wait a minute, all of this will be rebuilt. What happened in the past can be re, not experienced, but remembered through things that we did then, through photos that were taken. If we have those through, you know people that are still with us that we could talk to and connect with, and that the actual illusion of all that, of what was the drama and what people had to experience and what they were going through, was still something that, as spiritual beings, we could completely create a new construct together in such a dynamic way that would serve all of us even better, even in higher ways, even in more uplifted and sustained ways. Right now, yes, we're still in the middle of all of the upset, because anytime there's change, there's upset, and change also causes drama. We go into it in a different way. Oh, I'm scared, or whatever. It is Okay.
Speaker 2:Nonetheless, what's real is energy. What's real is how energy does continue to change, does continue to morph, does continue to form in various ways, and sometimes it's chaotic, and sometimes it's chaotic and sometimes it's harmonious. But if what we can do is learn how to master the fact that, as powerful spiritual beings, we have the ability to literally construct and come into a harmonious, unified agreement to create something more expansive, more beautiful, higher elevated from love with love together, then what was the past was simply that stepping stone. Think of it as being like the third grade, and now we can move to the fourth grade. Now we can step to the next level of growth, the next level of our evolution, the next level of our expansion. Right, that's what's real, not the drama that we tend to get caught up in.
Speaker 1:So how do we? You know we have to begin to learn how to do that right.
Speaker 1:And you know you and I are in this conversation, so it's a little bit easier for us to take ourselves a little bit and be like, oh, I see I'm, I'm creating drama or, you know, I'm allowing the drama to somebody else's drama to infiltrate my energetic field. But when we have people who are new to this conversation and that ability to be like, okay, this is not, you know, not my monkeys, not my circus, kind of thing, how do you begin? What's the first step to begin to say this is, this is not my drama, this is not my circus, not my like, this is not mine.
Speaker 2:So this is piggybacking a little bit on another conversation we had in reference to connecting with how you choose to express yourself. And then what do you choose to in that moment, think about or do perceive? Even if other people think you're in la-la land, well, we are in la-la land in LA. But if you're in la-la land, that just by the thought of it, just by the action of it, just by the perception of it, just by hearing the words, reading whatever the affirmation or motivational piece is, whatever the affirmation or motivational piece is, shifts us just slightly where, it's like for a half a second, I felt better. I felt like there was a light and there was hope.
Speaker 2:When you can begin to identify whatever that is for you because for everyone it's something different when you can begin to identify it, then you can and you hold that vibration just for a little bit. It's a frequency, it's a frequency vibration. When you can hold that vibration just for a little bit, then you may sink back to wherever you were, you know previously and you'll be in that for a moment. But as soon as you can exhale and read, listen, perceive, pay attention to have a thought about, to elevate you again, attention to have a thought about to elevate you again. It's like, little by little by little, that's how you can start the process, and I actually believe that meditation is one of the most fundamental ways in which it can allow you to move there a little bit faster. It may not seem like it. We live in an instantaneous world because, you know, let's face it, with technology everything happens, not even now. But it already happened, you know, two seconds ago, and so I expect it to happen five seconds ago now so I can experience it. Boom, bam, bam. Okay, meditation may take a little bit longer than that, but nonetheless it's a very faster way of being able to start shifting the thinking, the perspective, the awareness and those sorts of things, so that when you find yourself in any level of drama and I will say, any feeling you're experiencing, that feels yucky and nasty and I don't like it and I don't want to feel this way.
Speaker 2:That's the moment that you know that there's an aspect of drama you're caught up into and so shift it, even if that means taking an answer to your question for the brand new person. Stop, count to 10, and just breathe. That's all. Count to 10 and just breathe, and you may think to yourself this isn't doing any good. I don't even know why she's saying that. Okay, count to 10 and breathe some more. And count to 10 and breathe some more, until you move into a place where you have shifted and been able to calm all of this stuff that's whirling around you down. Calm all of this stuff that's whirling around you down. Then, from that place, you can take a step back and say okay, what decision do I need to make? What do I need to do? What have I learned from this? How do I proceed? Whatever questions you need to ask yourself in order to then take the next step, and that's how you begin creating your new construct. Does that make sense?
Speaker 1:Yes, so here's what I got out of that right. There is a moment where you need to interrupt yourself for a second. There needs to be an interruption of who do I want to be or what do I want to express now? Do I want to express the anger? Do I want to get wrapped up in this? Do I want peace? Do I want, like, what do I want in this moment? And you know, I know that, you know I'm not experiencing the impacts of the fire.
Speaker 1:I'm here in Canada, but I can remember a time a few years ago when the whole world was experiencing that kind of the fire. I'm here in Canada, but I can remember a time a few years ago when the whole world was experiencing that kind of drama and you know, and what different people did in order to step back, like I remember my husband getting so wrapped up and CNN was on all the time and I was. I was not in the space because I'd already stopped watching news even before. I was not in the space because I'd already stopped watching news even before COVID had happened, and so I watched the drama unfold and you're watching the people around you who are in there. So I made a choice a long time ago to not be involved in that drama because it wasn't serving me, and so I was still informed. I mean, there was information. I needed to make safe decisions.
Speaker 1:But when he also stopped watching it, when he started realizing the impact that it was having on him, he made a different choice and a different decision so that he could every day be okay with the fact that, hey, he has to still go to work. Yeah, yeah, those people who didn't get to work from home, he need to get up in the morning, get ready and go to work. And so he made a decision that I am not going to, you know, wrap myself up in the drama that's that was being created, and I think it's important for us that, yeah, and he's not like he's, he's not in our conversation. When he's, I mean he's, he's in a different conversation and that's fine, but the he recognized for himself.
Speaker 1:This is not who I want to be, this is not exactly I want to make, and that's what makes a difference.
Speaker 1:It's for every little thing that happens in life is the interruption of if you don't feel like things are the way you would like them to be, one of them like, okay, you accept that it is what it is, and the interruption to say I'm going to make a different choice in how I feel about this right now. Yes, I think that's, that's the key and that's the gift that has been given to us by the universe, which is free choice. And you know having like when you read things, like you know victor frankl and you know the mancer for meaning, and it's literally he's in a concentration camp looking for something that can bring him joy. Or, yes, he can choose his circumstance to say this is the worst possible freaking circumstance and I'm just gonna let myself physically, mentally, die. And you get that choice.
Speaker 1:And I think that's. That is when I hear you talk about the matrix I've only seen each one once. But when you talk about the construct and what we create, yes, we are creating. People are living their life outside of me right now, but I don't know what they're creating. I have no idea.
Speaker 2:Right, right, although, yes, it is, although there are certain things that we do agree to on a whole. They're called moral values and how we treat one another and how we interact with one another. Some people choose a different set of their own moral values, but nonetheless there's still a level of agreement. You know that happens there, but even that's part of the construct. Even if we are not very directly involved with it, there's energy in and of itself is always operating on a whole, so that everything is reflective. Everything is absolutely reflective in someone else or in something else, or whatever experience you're having. It is reflecting something back to you what you think about that, what you feel about that situation, what you are judging about him or her or them, or they are judging about him or her or them or they.
Speaker 2:Is reflecting literally back to you something in reference to yourself, and as it does, you are the one that has the opportunity to go oh, I don't know if I like that so much. And then you, and then you recognize am I really like that or is that how I used to be? And I can see it so clearly now Because I don't like that. If that's not what I am, if that's not what, if that is what what I am like and I just I don't approve of it. I don't approve of it. Hmm, maybe that's an aspect of myself that's important for me to shift or change or do differently. And so, for everything we can, we are built. And again I'll say, we have the power and the ability to see it, perceive it, experience it differently. That is our greatest power and gift and that is reality.
Speaker 1:If we could understand as a collective that it is an inside job from beginning to end. When you say my life, it is the my in your life. It is like I say this a lot you are the you in your life. There's other people who are the them in their lives and intersect. You know our energy fields are intersecting and intersect. You know our energy fields are intersecting.
Speaker 1:We have that collective agreement about how we're supposed to be in societies, depending on what society that you're in. That also has been created somewhere. Somebody created that, and I showed up in the world. I agree, I agree, okay, or I was. This is what we've agreed to, and that game that you do plus you make up your own rules, that that you agree to. When you can harness the power, cause it is so powerful, when you get oh, wait a minute, well, that person is, I'm getting triggered by the way they're behaving. What is that saying about me? And man, it's hard because I have those conversations. I never had those conversations before. Before it was a them problem, you know. But to look and say what is it about them that is having me feel this way.
Speaker 2:Well, here's the real tricky thing, if you want to go even deeper into that.
Speaker 2:Is that? Them? Is you? There is no separation. There truly is not. All of us are light beings. As light beings, we are all the light. And when you think about light, I'm trying to think of an example. But when you think about light and you have one bright bulb here and another bright bulb here, where does one end and one begin? Here and here and here, and all next to each other, them, ooh is me, because my light is reflecting so expansively, their light is reflecting so expansively. Could it be that we're all in the same pool, that we are all the same in the same water?
Speaker 1:no, absolutely that's, that's my human. They're like no, yes, but I under. I do understand what you're saying, that that is it is. It is a challenge because that with great power comes great responsibility always. And to say that, and I've learned this lesson and I keep learning it, because I keep, I think, expanding and elevating in the lesson, which is the responsibility I have for my own thoughts, feelings, whatever they are. And when people show up in my life and be like okay, okay, if we are all one and we are reflections of one another, there's something about that that's I'm not okay with. And then where do like? It's so easy to say that's you.
Speaker 2:Right, but it's not, it's you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, now you having this conversation with me, I'm like, ooh, there's some things I need to work out, but you know, because you, you and that's what I mean by everything that you experience and that's around you, and then part of the five physical senses, and all of that is a reflection of you. It never is anyone else, it's, it's just a reflection of you and so. But we choose to be in the illusion of it being someone else or a they problem or whatever the case may be, because it's easier for us to continue to operate in this construct again, which is also an illusion, but it does help us to continue to expand, to evolve, to grow and to stretch, and so that's why we have all these little pockets and what appear to be differences, so that we can continue to elevate. It's no different than having Barney. You know, when you're a little itty bitty kid, I remember my kids watching Barney, and Barney was always professing how you just need to love yourself and you're okay just the way you are, and it was that same message over and over and over again. Of course, it came out of an era that had a lot of change and turmoil and transformation, and I'm saying now, really from the World War I through to the 80s and 90s, when Barney came on the scene, where now everybody's okay, because before nobody was okay. You know, if you did not conform to society exactly the way you're supposed to, you have the problem, you have the issue. You are no good, you la la, la, la, la, la la la la. Well, okay, that was that particular construct, and so that helped introduce Barney, who says you're okay, you're loved just for who you are. Blah da, da, da da. And that is true. You are a unique human being that has much to contribute because of your uniqueness.
Speaker 2:What I have seen energetically, what I know for myself to be true, is that we all possess pretty much the same traits, from the lightest of light to what we may consider to be the darkest of dark. But we each individually if you want to use that term now expresses it, shows it, believes in it, and however we're going to live that, whether we're going to choose to live from a place that's the light, from whatever our perception is of it, to a place of dark, whatever our perception is of it and here's the real kicker and and and energies that are not necessarily for the good of the whole. Okay, see themselves as being totally in the light. They don't see themselves as being in the dark? Yeah, right. So then, really, who is in the light and who is in the dark, who's to say? But we all reflect what we experience, what we see, what our beliefs are and our perceptions are all these different things.
Speaker 2:And so, when we were, when we were taught, or during that time of, I say, the Barney era, when was that? No, I don't know, whatever it was, I get all the different generations, they're all kind of crowding in on each other, but from that place, everyone was unique and everyone was beautiful and everything Everyone's great and so forth. And yes, that was a way to bring more elevation, more expansion, more acceptance. Really, it was about bringing acceptance of all energy into play. We're now moving into a place where it is a higher vibration of we're all truly one in the same and one in the same meaning, expressed in different ways. I can understand that, and how we choose to express ourselves is our decision Individually and collectively, in a group.
Speaker 1:I understand that from this perspective it might be a little strange, but I remember. So my dad was born a Hindu and he would explain to me that Hindus have like a million different deities, so many of them, and he would say to me and it is somewhere written somewhere too that all they were was the manifestation of one energy, which is Brahma. So if there's Durga and Krishna and Saraswati and I don't remember, remember all of them and Kali that they literally are just a reflection of a piece of energy from the main source. And so what I'm hearing you say is that if we can understand that we are from the same energetic source, which we, some people, call it God, the universe, they see it in many different ways.
Speaker 1:Knowing that and stepping out from those, it's easier to see that, oh, you are a reflection of me, because we're from the same source, we're made up the same piece of river, so to speak. You know, know, we're all water and you know, some water looks blue, some looks murky, some looks but water. So because I'm trying to like I'm, I'm thinking about a situation that I'm dealing with in my life with, with somebody and I'm like, okay, well, if their way of being is not sitting with me, then what's that saying about me and what's that saying about them? And you know?
Speaker 2:So you would first ask what is it about that situation? That is most challenging for me in the way that I see it or think about it or believe it to be. So that's the first question to ask. And then, when that question is answered, you ask whatever the next question is that makes sense to take you a little bit deeper down that trail? And so, yes, I think the way that you just described it is a very perfect description.
Speaker 2:I have studied various religions and different spiritual modalities and there's truth and real essence that goes through all of them. Each one is perceived and then practiced based on belief systems and experiences that people have. More specifically is where we make the separation between light and dark and say, oh well, that's dark over there because I'm in the light. Oh no, I'm in the light. Oh no, I'm in the light, you're in the dark. That's where it becomes, but it's still an illusion. It's not what it is.
Speaker 2:So when you say the river and some of it is bright, beautiful, blue or the water some of it's bright, beautiful blue, some is a little murkier, and as you were speaking, I was saying, well, that's because the aspect of the water, although formed to look like water is reflected when it comes to the dirt and the trees and the natural environment around it, the rocks and so forth, and so it's going to lend itself to having the energy of the water or the appearance of the water look different.
Speaker 2:But is it any different? Water? No. And is the landscape that's around it any different or separate from the water? No. The landscape might be really green where the trees aren't meeting the water and the sun is able to give it its brilliance and the soil its nutrients. And then you just go a few feet down and it looks a little bit more soft and not quite as brilliant in color, perhaps, or whatever the case may be right, because the water is meeting it in that place, but does it make it any less magnificent, wonderful, and have the essence of the naturalness and the earth around it? And even though water is fluid, fluid and the earth seems to be more stationary or stabilized, these energies still are able to mix, intermingle, change, evolve, shift, and they're still a reflection of one another in various ways.
Speaker 1:There's no separation, and I think there's no separation, and I believe that this is something for us each individually to ponder where we're at in this, in this station, for there's people who are further along in the conversation than I am and people who are just stepping into the conversation, and I hope we've really given you, the listener, something to really think about. And if you have questions, always put them in the comments for us. You can reach out to us. We have all the information on how to get in touch with us and I'd like to send out an invitation, because we were talking about meditation and 2025. If you're listening, in this year we are doing a monthly meditation of, you know, global peace and wellness, and if you're interested in that, we will also have the link to register for it. It is completely free, it's at the beginning of every month and we have powerful healers who will be walking us through 10 to 15 minutes.
Speaker 2:That's all it's going to take of your time to just bring that global energy, that unity, the reflection, into one space to help the entire planet and you elevate on your journey, and so and it is part of what I was speaking about before in a very unified way, harmony with every living thing on this planet, including the planet herself that is a living organism I won't use the word organism, but is alive to bring, to be in harmony with all of that and in a unified way that continues to elevate us in the experience of peace, joy and, of course, it all comes from, ultimately, love. And the first Saturday of every month we do this, yes, and I will be doing it February 1st, so it will be my opportunity. And for those that may have a wonderful way of meditating and are in harmony with this type of thing also, please reach out to us. We may ask you to lead the meditation for that particular month, and we'd be happy to talk to you about that as well. Yes, thank you so much.
Speaker 1:Lynn, for everything that you month, and we'd be happy to talk to you about that as well. Yes, thank you so much, lynn, for everything that you do, the powerful conversations that we have. Please make sure to like, comment, share, ask questions. We want to engage in the conversation with you, so until next time. Bye for now, bye-bye. Thank you for joining us today on Healers Talk Healing. We hope you've been inspired and empowered on your holistic healing journey. If you've enjoyed today's episode and want to continue learning and growing with us, don't forget to subscribe, follow, rate and review our podcast. Your feedback and support mean the world to us. Remember healing is a lifelong journey and you have the power to transform your life in profound ways. Stay curious, keep exploring and never stop believing in your own capacity for healing.
