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Healers Talk Healing Podcast
The Healers Talk Healing podcast invites you on a transformative journey towards holistic healing, where we explore the mind-body connection, natural remedies, and ancient wisdom to empower you to live a vibrant and balanced life. Join us as we share inspiring stories, expert interviews, and practical tips to help you unlock your true potential and embrace a happier, healthier you.
Healers Talk Healing Podcast
Gut Health Masterclass: Heal & Thrive with Shanaz Kalantar
When Shanaz "Shaz" Kalantar, an ex-National Olympic gymnast turned gut health sage, graced our podcast, it wasn't just an interview; it was a masterclass on the resilience of the human spirit and the body's ability to heal. Battling ailments like acne and IBS, Shaz's life-altering pivot from traditional medicine to naturopathy unveiled the symbiotic relationship between our gut and brain, a revelation that has since fueled her mission to educate and empower. Through her narrative, learn how she transformed her struggles into a beacon of hope for others, reinventing her wellbeing and, in the process, helping countless individuals navigate their own journeys to health.
Our conversation took an intriguing turn as we explored the generational divide in health perceptions, particularly in gut wellness. The younger crowd's push for self-care and informed advocacy contrasts sharply with the bygone era's blind reliance on prescriptions and doctor's orders. We took a deep look at how lifestyle changes and modern diets have affected our internal ecosystems, offering a compass for those ready to step up and take control of their health. Shaz's wisdom extends beyond her own experiences, serving as a guidepost for listeners who are keen to elevate their health literacy and find solace in a community of like-minded seekers.
As we wrapped up this enlightening session, we delved into the power of intentional eating and the silent war against inflammation. Every bite holds the promise of healing, and Shaz shared gems on navigating food labels and choosing anti-inflammatory paths. We considered the profound influence of mental health on our eating habits and how to resist the siren call of comfort foods in moments of stress. Our discourse on the benefits of detoxification and the importance of holistic approaches to health left us with actionable insights and a reminder that every meal is an opportunity to nurture our bodies and minds. Follow Shaz's vibrant Instagram journey and join our podcast family for a regular dose of inspiration on the path to a balanced, holistic lifestyle.
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Welcome to Healers Talk Healing, the podcast where we gather to explore the art and science of holistic healing, uncovering the secrets to a happier, healthier you. I'm your host, nina Ganguly, and together we will delve into the intriguing world of holistic healing, delving into the mind-body connection, ancient wisdom and natural remedies. Get ready for enlightening stories, thought-provoking expert interviews and practical tips that will empower you to unlock your true potential and embrace a vibrant, balanced life. Whether you're an experienced wellness enthusiast or simply curious about the power of healing, join us on this exhilarating journey, as we share the wisdom and insights that can truly transform your life. It's time to embark on a voyage towards a happier, healthier you. So, without further ado, let's dive into the captivating world of Healers Talk Healing. Welcome to Healers Talk Healing. On this episode, I'm thrilled to introduce to you Shehnaz Kalantar, a prominent gut health, wellness and nutrition educator who has turned her personal struggles into a pathway for healing. Others Known affectionately as Shaz, she's become an influential coach through a unique blend of education and life experiences.
Speaker 1:From a young age, shaz faced numerous health challenges, including acne, candida and IBS, which were further complicated during her time as a National Olympic gymnast. Despite these hardships, including severe dizziness and multiple concussions, shaz's resilience shone through. It was through these trials that Shaz found her true calling, transitioning from a corporate fitness and wellness consultant to an entrepreneur. In our conversation, shaz shares how she overcame her health obstacles and now empowers others to take control of their wellness. She advocates for a committed approach to health transformation, emphasizing gut healing, mental clarity and overall health management. Join us as Shaz unfolds her inspiring journey and actionable strategies for a healthier life. So I am excited for this episode because I have one of my besties, daughter. On, shannaz, I'm sure that's how you wanted to be introduced. Everyone heard the bio before, so we're all good, but it's exciting because we have never had like really alone time. So to have this conversation in this format is pretty cool, I think. And so, shuna, as I always ask every one of our guests, what is your definition of healing?
Speaker 2:I think healing is going through the dark to get to the light and finding, like, more pockets of peace in your chaos and just in the chaos of world. That's what I feel like healing is to me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so you know, I know that you know your well part of your healing journey certainly started with you dealing with some certain circumstances that you had that you were trying to discover you know some solutions for. So I'd really love to hear about you know, what was that impetus for you to start on, you know creating the business. Now that you've created, you know a big, successful business helping, you know women deal with you know gut issues but what was the catalyst for you?
Speaker 2:That led me to like doing it as a business or to heal myself, like healing, Like yeah, just like what was, what was your.
Speaker 1:You know, we all have something right, something that helps us, something that gets us on this healing journey. For me, it was experience, uh, experiencing abuse for many years, and then you know, something's always like that thing. That's like okay, this is what I need to do in order to start feeling better.
Speaker 2:Yeah for sure. So for me it was adult acne that was like very persistent. But then more concerning was brain fog, lightheaded spells and fainting at quite a young age. So it was concerning because it held me back from achieving a lot of my goals. It was stopping me from doing well in school and it was also just dangerous. You know, like I could get behind a wheel and feel fine and then all of a sudden get these lightheaded and dizzy spells. So that really made me realize, like you know, like I'm 20 years old, I shouldn't be experiencing these symptoms.
Speaker 2:And what really propelled me into healing myself and also like helping other people is not getting any help with traditional doctors in this specific situation because it's not well known, it's not well studied about the gut microbiome and how the gut brain connection is. So I realized that it wasn't really getting answers. When I went to the doctors they'd say you know, just rest more, just sleep more, just exercise more. And it was very surface and I was like these are really concerning symptoms and I'm not really getting an answer. So it forced me to learn how to heal myself, which in turn helps me heal other people.
Speaker 1:So what was that journey like? Because I think there's there's so many people I've heard this story about going to you know who we think are supposed to help us work out your symptoms that we don't understand and we're not getting answers. So what was the first step that you took out, you know, once you felt that the doctors weren't supporting you in a way that would give you a solution?
Speaker 2:My first step was trying to switch to holistic medicine and going through naturopathic doctors and getting the necessary testing that I needed to understand my root causes. And I did learn a lot in that path of like understanding that my gut was a big component to a lot of my symptoms and my hormones, because a naturopathic doctor can look at the same blood result as a traditional physician and give you very different results. To that like learning on my own and just seeking answers within like I would ask like what do I need to do? Please attract the right people, places, medicines, supplements, food in order for me to like heal. So it was very inward and I feel like that's what really helped me heal, too, is like asking the right questions and then praying that I was attracted to the right people, places and things.
Speaker 1:I love. I love that because it's not the first time I've I've heard that, inside of looking for, uh, physical health, uh solutions, is to start looking at well, are we asking the right questions? Are we at the right, like energetic level? Are we putting out there what we really want to get back? So, when you start, when you started this journey and you started working with a naturopath, um, I I want the listeners to get like there's so many, there are so many people that can support out there that it's not. It doesn't um, that can because I don't want to diminish our medical community. There is definitely a place for them. Like, in the event of an emergency, I don't think your naturopath can actually help you. You need to go to the hospital, yeah, but the thing is that I don't know if enough people understand that it's a multi-pronged approach. Like you need a team as well as that connection between your mind, your body, your spirit, your soul, where you're, where you're, um, uh, what was? When did you discover that it's more than just physical?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it was actually working with a naturopathic doctor because they again, I love their work, I admire their knowledge and I'm really grateful for my experience. But I asked them about nutrition and they they were saying that nutrition didn't have much impact on my healing, which I thought was a bit concerning because I studied nutrition and I knew there was a big correlation. And then also ask very spiritual questions, like you know, I know trauma and pain, can you know, revert inside and that could cause physical symptoms to like what are your takes on that? And of course that's not the right place to ask those questions. And I quickly realized okay, I got what I needed from this experience and now I need to figure out the mental, spiritual side and get more support because a naturopathic doctors you don't have to just call them and text them, you know, like, again, very respectful of their practice, but legally they can't give advice outside their office. So there's only so much support that you can get.
Speaker 2:And I studied a lot. I learned a lot from my mom, I learned a lot from Deepak Chopra, just studying how you can talk to your cells, and all my free time I would listen to affirmations to heal myself and heal my body. So if I drove anywhere, I was listening to that. If I was, you know, at the gym, I was listening to that and I feel like that was really powerful of me trying to rewire my conscious and subconscious to learn how to heal myself too.
Speaker 1:That's it's. It's so important and I think I'm glad that you're sharing that because for our listeners, I think it's important for us, a state in a, in a space of healing or at full health, but there's so much that we we do or we experience things that we have control over, things that we don't have control over, that impact us at all levels and we don't realize it. But I was, I just myself started learning how much trauma can impact like years and years down the road. You know, you think you've, you've dealt with everything, and then, all of a sudden, why is my back hurting all the time? For no reason, why is this out of sorts? And it's uh, it's physical, and you know, know, my brain goes to wait a minute, though, but I thought I dealt with all this, maybe mentally, but not on, you know, at a deep level. So when you're working with with some, with your clients, where, like where, do you usually start with them?
Speaker 2:So, uh, typically we just start to make sure we're a good fit. You know, like I want to make sure that what they're experiencing I've experienced personally, because I love having the empathy and I love and I love showing them like, hey, I was in your position and I'm on the other side and I've helped heal so many people in this exact same position.
Speaker 2:So I really specialize in like people that have hormonal imbalances, candida overgrowth, parasitic infections for a specific reason because I went through that and then we can do a stool test. So oftentimes if a doctor hasn't conducted a stool test, I can set that up for them so that we can see exactly what's going on physically in the gut. I do like a really deep health assessment with them which asks these important questions about you know what is your trauma? How do you practice self love? How do you practice self care? Do you have support? What are your main stress factors? What is your relationship with food? You know what foods make you feel sick, like all these kind of things on a mind, body and soul level. And then for me, support is everything I always offer, like unconditional love and unlimited tech support, because I think love heals and I think support is everything when you're going through such a difficult time. So that's pretty much my process and we do lots of check ins, of course.
Speaker 1:So so how do you actually you know what I'm going to ask you a different question. My question, my next question, is well, what is your routine, now that you are sort of on the other side, what's actually what? What do you do in order to keep everything balanced?
Speaker 2:and spiritual aspects, because that is the foundation. You know, and when you are under a lot of stress and you can find, like I said, you can find peace in the chaos and you learn that power, then that can never be taken away from you because you can't control the external factors, you can only control the inside. So I still make a lot of time to practice my meditation, my breathing, watching my thoughts if they're getting to a point where they feel really fearful and overwhelming. And nutrition for me is like my passion, my love.
Speaker 2:So it's very easy for me to eat like healthy foods and keep a good gut microbiome, which means like really making sure I'm not indulging in sugar, because that's like the biggest trigger for gut dysbiosis and also hormonal imbalances, just it's causes so much inflammation. So I eat mostly like a gluten free diet and again, this is not for everybody, but it's just what works for me. Everyone has their own unique, you know, diet and what works for them. But yeah, I just I practice a lot of gratitude, I eat well, I exercise, I try to connect with nature. I think that's where my power lies.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think what I'm hearing is like that. You know, the, the, the multi, the multi approach. Now I think that you know I'm not sure if you agree with me but I feel like the, you know, healing and looking at gut health and looking at your liver and looking at, you know, your physicality, is something that's fairly new in the Western world. You know, two or three or four years ago I wouldn't have heard about gut health and the connection, mind-body connection to that. Um, what do you, what? What do you? Why do you think that is now that this is now becoming a huge topic of conversation?
Speaker 2:yeah, I think it's really sad that it's only now, because your gut is 70% of your immune system, which is a very big portion, and so much hormonal activity happens in the gut. But why it's happening now is a few reasons. One, there were a lot of influencers like me that started openly talking about it. Like I started a YouTube page in 2015, being like, hey, I'm Shaz and nobody knows what's wrong with me, but I have these symptoms and I'm going to share my experience and that's kind of how, like my business started. And so many people commented like I have those symptoms too and you know. All that kind of stuff and gut health really started trending, to be honest, not just because of me, but because a lot of people started opening up and being honest about it.
Speaker 2:And I do think our generation, as they're getting younger, being having more freedom to speak without feeling so fearful, so I think that helps. We have a lot more ability to say what we need to say and share this information over social media. But also the way we grew up is very important to analyze. You know, we were a generation that grew up on a lot of candy and it doesn't matter where you live, we all somehow had the same childhood. Like we all ate Dunkaroos, we all had Gushers, all you know what I mean. We all had Dairy Queen and McDonald's and all the things, which is fine, you know.
Speaker 2:But I think we were also over prescribed antibiotics. A lot Like back then if you had an ear infection, antibiotics. If you had a little bit of a sore throat, antibiotics like there was no hesitation on given the antibiotics, and that heavily damages the gut. And then not only that, we are a generation that has a lot of depression, a lot of anxiety, and that requires a lot more medication. We are very much forced the birth control pill again, which is a huge distributor for gut health, you know. So there's a lot of reasons why the gut is more damaged in general, because there are a lot of older generations that are like what is gluten-free. I've eaten bread my whole life and had never had a stomach issue. So I think it's a generational thing and that we're experiencing more gut issues and that we have the ability to speak on social media and and internet to share what we're suffering with yeah, you know it's funny because I am a I'm of your mother's generation.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so.
Speaker 1:I think one of the things that, um, I can say about that is we did not learn to advocate for ourselves. We, we are a generation of. If the doctor says a, you don't question the doctor, you do a, even if you're like I'm not, I'm not sure. Like I'm at the point with my doctor now where I go and I say, okay, this is what's happening, I think this is what I need, and she just does a couple of checks and balances and she's like here okay, yeah, you're right, uh, but when I was your age, if my doctor said to me this, this and this, yeah, like I was prescribed tetracycline for acne, now that's like, if anybody knows now what tetracycline does, it kills everything and you're like good, bad, not. Yes, terrible.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's still being prescribed, by the way yeah, you know it's so funny because I I didn't know that because I was on the birth control at time. We were not told that.
Speaker 1:Oh, by the way when you're on that, oh, by the way, when you're on birth control, by the way, your pills don't you're, and you're on antibiotics, your pills don't work. Be nice if someone said that exactly. Yeah, I suffered with so many yeast infections and I didn't know why. Right, yeah, and it was because of, you know, being on tetracycline being on. I shouldn't have even been on the pill if I was on tetracycline. I think that's right. You know now that I'm thinking about it.
Speaker 1:Gosh, I've never actually told anybody about that. So, yeah, I think you know, for, for you know, women and men of of my age, we were in a, in a space where you, like, you listen to your teachers, you listen to the doctor, you did not question anything because we were brought up that way. You don't question, quote-unquote, experts or authority. So I think that there is a benefit, yeah, to being of. You know how we say oh, this generation, yeah, every generation, by the way says that about the next generation yeah, I know, really we should all be working together, yeah absolutely, absolutely, and I think there's a lot to learn cross-generationally from everyone.
Speaker 1:But what was it? Okay? So what advice would you give to people who are unsure, like they're not feeling 100%, so they're not going to the doctor. So we're not feeling a hundred percent, so they're not going to the doctor, so we're not talking about it? I'm I'm trying to, you know, ask this. Basically, I want to know what do we do when we're not feeling that great and we don't want to go tell anybody or talk to anybody but you're not feeling good? You know, there are people who still are afraid to even talk to a naturopath or a healer or a doctor or anything, because they're they're they're afraid. Join the miracles directory, where healers connect and wellness begins. Join a community of trusted holistic professionals or find your path to healing and peace. Visit the miracles directorycom. Start your journey today.
Speaker 2:Yeah, afraid, and also like money can be a big factor too. Um, I think the best thing, like is utilize what is free on the internet and I know that can be not the best advice either, because there's so much on the internet. But even if you can start finding people that you feel called to, listening you feel their energy from their video and you go back to what I said is like ask the the right questions, ask who am I, what do I need to heal you know? What are the root causes of what is causing these, these pains? And just starting having that conversation with yourself and allow yourself to receive information that to come to you. If you're afraid to go out, you know, and I think that's like the bravest thing you can do is just be open to receiving.
Speaker 1:So true. So I have some actual technical questions to ask you yes, of course let's talk about sugar. Yeah, let's talk about the sugar Because, from my own personal research and understanding, sugar can be the enemy, but it's also not always the enemy, from my understanding. It depends on what kind of sugar you're filling your body with, because our bodies do need glucose to actually survive.
Speaker 2:Okay. So, firstly, sugar isn't glucose, it's sucralose, so that's just glucose is fruit, glucose is vegetables, you know. So you, you need that type of glucose to survive.
Speaker 1:You don't need sugar to survive, but sugar, yeah, just clarify that more, for for my listeners for sure.
Speaker 2:I don't think anyone should be afraid of sugar and I think there's so much power in enjoying treats and, you know, enjoying festivals and holidays, like that is not something to be afraid of, but what you consume on an everyday basis is is. It's unfortunate, but it is our responsibility to understand what we're putting in our body. So sugar on its own, cane sugar there's nothing wrong with that. But where sugar is put in is a problem. Sugar is put in ketchup. Sugar is put in barbecue sauce. Sugar is put in teriyaki sauce. Sugar is put in every single granola bar. Sugar is put in bread. Sugar is put in your milk. Sugar is in everything. And so they know, and you know science, they know that we're it's something that's very addictive, like there's so many studies that show that it's more addictive than cocaine, and you know it's.
Speaker 2:Also you also have to understand, like why is it that apples are more expensive than gummy bears? Right, because there's a motive there, and it's again, it's unfortunate that it's our responsibility, because it shouldn't be, but that is something that we have to be aware of. And again, these are the questions you have to ask, like why is that? You know, why is it that gummy bears are cheaper than apples, right, and I don't think sugar's enemy. Like I said, cane sugar is not an enemy.
Speaker 2:But when you mix cane sugar with a hydrogenated oil like canola oil, and then you add in dairy that's processed and heavily filled with hormones, and then you add in some flour, that that straight white flour with no fiber, and you say here's a muffin, there's no nutritional value in that and it's just going to cause a lot of inflammation. But again, if you're having like cake on your birthday or it's like, it's not to be afraid. But again, it's that rule of understanding Every time you eat you're either healing yourself or you're increasing your inflammation. It's every single time You're either healing or you're increasing your inflammation.
Speaker 2:That's profound, it's it's just a choice every single day. And if you decrease your inflammation to a point where you can enjoy a treat and your inflammation bar is not exploding amazing. But if your entire body is so inflamed and you just keep eating all these things, that's when all these symptoms are so persistent and they won't go away until you decrease all that inflammation okay, so let's go back to the difference between glucose.
Speaker 2:Yeah, glucose is what you need. It is brain power, that's what you hear. It's energy. Yes, you know, glucose is a very complex molecule. That is bread and that is fruit and that is vegetables. You know, people forget that vegetables are carbohydrates. I think, like people just assume, vegetables are just like vitamins and minerals, but, like, if you eat cucumber, that's still brain food, that's still energy. Although it's not caloric dense, it's not going to give you too much energy. It's still energy. So glucose is a complex molecule. Sucralose is a branch of glucose and it's just the sugar, just like this fructose, which is also another form of sugar. And they'll try and trick you. In the ingredient list there's like over 20 different names for sugar alone. Wow, just to keep you confused.
Speaker 1:Okay, what are the top three confusing names?
Speaker 2:corn syrup is like one that you would think isn't sugar, but it is. I mean, most people would know corn syrup is, but they'll, they'll do that also. Another thing to remember in the ingredient list is it goes from most to least, so if sugar is ever in the first ingredient, then that's always something you should never have, because that means it's mostly sugar. That's the number one ingredient. Nothing, yeah, but yeah, there's sucralose, there's fructose, I think those are probably the biggest ones. Um, but yeah, cane sugar is is natural and that is how you know it's made plant. That's the plant cane sugar and it's just what they do. And how they make sugar like corn is a problem. They process that a lot and that's where they get that high fructose corn syrup and that's very inflammatory to the body yeah, I, you know.
Speaker 1:I've also myself been hearing a lot about inflammation, and there are so many of us who walk around we have no idea that we're even inflamed, until it gets to a point where it's like whoa now we've got to like put the like the emergency button because we've got to stop everything and reset.
Speaker 1:So for for, from my understanding, from some of the readings that I've done and the research that I've done, like most of us, just because of the way the world works and the way things are now, we're already inflamed. So we like kind of like we've got this base level of inflammation. Yeah, so for those of us who are like base level inflammation, you know we're not really, we don't really know if we're inflamed or not yeah, what are, what can we do to reduce our inflammation, like when we're not in a space of, you know, 911 situation? Yeah, 100%.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's definitely things like anti inflammatory diets right, where you eliminate a lot of inflammation, foods like that, the, the canola oils, the sugars, the gluten, the processed gluten, right, the processed food in general. That's one of the best powers you can give. And I think it's hard because a lot of us struggle to be disciplined enough because there's too many temptations and we, a lot of us, aren't trained mentally to understand that we're doing this to benefit us and we start to slip into victim mentality and like, oh, like, I had a hard day, I deserve a donut, like it sucks, you know, and that's fine. But again, that's how we're trained, so it's again it comes back to that mental health. It's like what do you want? What is best for you, what is your priority? And you have to keep that in mind every time you make a choice and remind yourself every time I eat, I'm either cause I'm helping my healing or I'm causing more inflammation. So nutrition there's. What I do specifically is help people heal gut dysbiosis, which is so. That's something that's very important, because if you can heal any pathogens in the gut, like you said, yeast infections, that's a big sign of candida.
Speaker 2:If you have parasites or if you have any type of symptoms that are concerning you taking the time to clear your gut, do a gut cleanse or a liver cleanse, like?
Speaker 2:I know there's a lot of taboo around those things, but I always try to remind you, like, or my clients, and remind people that every time we eat, like I said, if you've been eating inflammatory foods for years and years and years and years, years you think it could take on all. It's like someone who's constantly being hit every single day like how much can you take, how much? When are you? When's your body going to be? Like, when is it my turn to breathe? And have something to help me breathe and just take a rest. You know so. Your gut will always need that because it's constantly working for you. Your liver is constantly working for you. All your detox organs they crave a little bit of that refresh, restart and a week of dedication. A month of dedication, three months of dedication, is nothing compared to the years of all of the inflammatory foods you've, even choices you know, yeah, it's.
Speaker 1:It's interesting because you touched a little bit upon, you know, the I'm gonna say this, I'm just gonna say it like capitalism, right, you know where are we gonna spend our like, you know where are we gonna spend the money? How can we get? And it's a? It's funny because I just earlier, you know, recorded another um, another guest, and we ended up talking about the same thing. It just keeps coming up is, you know, we are not a society that is at the base level, looking at health and as as preventative care, absolutely yeah. We're a society, specifically in North America, that is really more about let's just, you know, take care of the symptoms and keep just taking care of the symptoms.
Speaker 1:So, you know, I have the three, the big three, the top three. I have high blood pressure, which I've had since I was in my twenties. I have recently, in the last year, been diagnosed with type two diabetes and high cholesterol, which I know are both things that I can take care of and I'm beginning to work on it. But I, you know, I asked my doctor. I said, okay, I'm well aware that diabetes, especially if I'm getting it in at this age, in my fifties, is something that I can take care of.
Speaker 1:I know there's also the whole menopause thing. That's a whole other thing, that's a whole nother show. It is yeah, you know. So when I asked her okay, so what can I do so that I can get off these? I don't want to stay on these pills. I know I need them right now because my levels are now at like a 9-1-1 level, so I need to make sure I get that down quick. And she said yeah, you're probably not going to be able to come off those pills yeah, right, I'm like, but just everyone else out there saying it's possible, so I don't get it right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so what do you think about that?
Speaker 2:Again, you have to understand that, like the, the, they don't get trained in nutrition, they're not trained on a holistic level, and that's okay. Like we said, we need them in emergency situations. We have to understand their strengths. They study disease and medicine. They always have a medicine, that's for sure, and that's also that's how they make their money and, again, respectable. But if you are looking for that holistic, that preventative, that healing, it's just. This is why I extend my service and this is where you're gonna have to understand who do I go to for help? How do I understand how to nourish my body, to decrease my insulin levels, to bring my blood pressure back down? What do I need to do on a consistent level? Because, again, people are looking. When they come to me, I'm always like I'm not your quick fix girl. Okay, I am not. You're not going to come to me and get a special supplement, a special pill, like it does take work.
Speaker 2:That's why I always say it's going through dark to get to the light, because you have to completely reprogram yourself, you have to sit in the discomfort, you have to feel an uncomfortable symptom, even though you are working so hard, even though you're exercising, you're eating all the right things and you haven't dropped a pound in a week. That's that's how it's going to go. That's healing, that's going through the dark to get to the light. It's trusting that process. So it's it's hard. It's hard, it's very, very triggering. It's very difficult. Like you said, people want what's comfortable, they want to surface, but there are so many people out there and there are lots of, lots of things you can do nutritionally. Go inward, ask your, go inward, ask your body, ask your body what it needs. I talk to your own cells and say, like what do? What do we need? What do we need cells? You know like the doctors are not helping you anymore, so you help yourself and you. You reach out for support when you need it.
Speaker 1:you know I love that you said that, because I think you know when we're, when we're talking, to know listeners who are just maybe delving into this world of holistic healing and holistic health and the whole gamut of of looking at more of a natural lifestyle, is the power of connecting and listening to your body. Yes, yes, like literally asking okay, because your body, you're right, your body will tell you if you're willing to listen. It's not Lulu, it's not crazy. It's called that that you know intuition that's going to tell you and speak to you of what's going to work. I just did that the other day about something. I can't remember what it was.
Speaker 1:Oh today while I was cooking. I wish I remembered, so I could share, that I was asking my body about something. My ear started ringing and I'm like oh, the guides are knocking on my door. What do you need to tell me? Yes, I thought about this. Oh, I should remember this from my conversation with Shanaz, and I can't remember it now, of course, but I do want to.
Speaker 2:I do want to emphasize that, yes, ask yourself, but you should never I don't believe anyone should heal alone, because we're strongest in a community, we're stronger when we work together and, again, the way our system is set up is to to divide us. So I do believe that everyone has someone that could guide them, that could help them on their healing journey. No one can heal you. You heal you, but I do feel that there's definitely someone that's always a good fit for you out there that can help, guide you and support you on your healing journey for sure 100%.
Speaker 1:I'm glad that you said that, because there it's not possible. Honestly, from my own experience it's not possible because you don't know what you don't know Right. You know I'm not a nutritionist, nutritionalist, I'm not a gut health expert, I'm not a liver expert, you know, I'm not even like a somatic expert. So to release energy from my body, I'm not an expert in that. I had to learn to do breath work to start to understand. Oh, you know, I went to an energetic healer, so there's a lot of it is important. You have a team. You know, even like your medical doctor needs to be part of your team. You know your naturopathic doctor, your, your, whoever your experts are in your corner to help, because I, you just know there's something's not working. Yeah, that's for sure. I think we all know when something's not working and when something is physically, even mentally, we know it's a matter of of just asking for help, which many of us have a lot of difficulty doing.
Speaker 2:I am one of those people scared to pay for this, so I can't pay for this. And then that come. I always am like make sure you know that you know your worth, if you feel like I'm the good fit for you because money is just energy and if it means that we can exchange and you live your best self and then you vibrate higher and you attract more money. Like that's how it would work for you. But it's really hard. It takes a lot of strength to get to the point of being like okay, I I'm willing to invest into myself and I'm trusting.
Speaker 1:That's a big one, especially for women. Yeah, yeah, no, it's like we'll invest. And sometimes it's so subconscious you don't even realize you're doing it. You don't realize how you're putting everybody first, because there's a little bit of like you get something from that too, right. Even realize you're doing it. You don't realize how you're putting everybody first, because there's a little bit of like you get something from that too, right yeah when you're giving, then you're like oh, you know, I'm spending time with my kids, I'm giving to my kids.
Speaker 1:Oh, my husband, oh, I'm giving to all my mother and my mother-in-law and everybody and then all of a sudden, you're like, oh, it's 10 o'clock at night, I ain't got time to invest in myself now. I need to go to bed so that I can rest, and everybody else tomorrow? Yes, exactly A challenge, and I know you have two young ones. I was just before we started recording. I was like I don't know how you do all this and still work at home and get it all done. But I can tell by what you're sharing. It's like you are ensuring that you are taking care of your mental health and you know pairing that with your physical health and your spiritual health.
Speaker 2:And it's not just a one.
Speaker 1:Like I said before, it's not a one pronged approach and I'm really glad that you have those conversations with. You know the clients who say, well, oh, I don't have the money, cause a lot of times, we know a lot of times, sometimes it truly is about the money and a lot of times it is about the value. And it's not that, it's not your value, it's the value you see in yourself.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and fear. Fear of not it not working, fear of you know you feel like you're always going to be stuck in the symptoms and position you're going to be in, right Like, look, look at the power of what your doctor told you and how it imprints you consciously, subconsciously, saying it doesn't matter what you do, you're going to be on these pills forever. So now imagine you invest $1,000 into someone that says we can heal nutritionally, but your subconscious is still like, well, I don't think this is gonna work, because doctor said I'm gonna be on pills forever. So that's, that's the power and that's the fear and that's what we have.
Speaker 1:We have all those imprints yes, indeed, and you know, it's funny because there's a level of belief that you have to have subconsciously. Even if I say to you no, she doesn't believe that you can help me, and the little voice is like no, she can't, no, she can't, no, she can't.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's how it's just again going through the dark to get to the light. It's you facing yourself.
Speaker 1:That's how I that's powerful, because it's not just about your gut health, no, it is facing yourself, and I'm glad that you're saying that, because a doctor won't say, okay, well, you got to get your emotions in check, right? Because, like, if you don't have your emotions in check, I can give you all this medication. Nothing's going to work, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You're willing to say listen, okay, I get that you have this, but do you see that there's all of this buildup that has happened over years, all the trauma that you've held in, all all of the on the things that you've never communicated, that you should perhaps communicate and say and hold in your body, that impacts. It's not just the eating. I think that's what I want to get at before you know, as we come to a close, this is what you've been saying the whole time it's not just the eating. It is, and but it's not the only thing yeah, well, it can't be.
Speaker 2:When we are spiritual being inside a physical body, how can we only focus on the physical? That doesn't make any sense. It's we have to focus on all of those aspects to to heal for sure.
Speaker 1:Amazing. Well, she knows this has been such a fabulous conversation. It was so nice talking to you, but how can we find you aside from the miracles directory? How can people connect with you and get your magic?
Speaker 2:yes, okay, so my name is shanaz, but I mostly go by shaz, which is s-h-a-z, so all of my platforms are shazness wellness, um, and I have a website shazness wellness. Instagram. Shazness wellness. Youtube. Shazness wellness it's all around tiktok. Shazness wellness. You can find me on shazness Wellness Instagram. Shazness Wellness. Youtube. Shazness Wellness it's all around TikTok.
Speaker 1:Shazness Wellness. You can find me on Shazness Wellness Amazing. And, by the way, I've seen a lot of your Instagram posts, a lot of your reels. So for those of you who are, you know, wanting to step into the water, tip your toe and you can find her on the miracles directory, but you can also check her out on instagram. I love your reels. I love when the kids are in the reels. They're, they're so cute. Yeah, you want to see her kids check it out, because they're adorable so thank you again so much.
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