Healers Talk Healing Podcast
The Healers Talk Healing podcast invites you on a transformative journey towards holistic healing, where we explore the mind-body connection, natural remedies, and ancient wisdom to empower you to live a vibrant and balanced life. Join us as we share inspiring stories, expert interviews, and practical tips to help you unlock your true potential and embrace a happier, healthier you.
Healers Talk Healing Podcast
Redefining Health with Courtney Alexander Through Mind-Body Synergy
Uncover the transformative connection between fitness and holistic healing with our guest, personal trainer Courtney Alexander. This episode promises to shift your perspective on the role of physical health in achieving emotional and mental wellness. Courtney offers his wisdom on the symbiotic relationship between self-expression and healing, and through our conversation, you're guaranteed to find strategies that pave the way to a more authentic and barrier-free life. We dissect the ways in which our unacknowledged physical, mental, or emotional issues can ripple out, affecting not only ourselves but also those around us.
Bridging the gap between understanding and action, Courtney delves into the psychological blockades that can deter us from our fitness objectives. We share actionable advice on how to establish habits that chip away at self-limiting beliefs while also stressing the importance of recognizing and celebrating each step forward. Our discussion illuminates how discipline and awareness of personal limitations intertwine, propelling us towards growth and success. The takeaway is clear: overcoming the mental hurdles is just as crucial as the physical effort put into our fitness journey.
Rounding off our insightful exchange, the spotlight turns to the profound effects of a supportive mindset and the integral role of coaching in personal development. We emphasize the significance of acknowledging progress and setting clear goals while highlighting the dual role of a fitness coach—serving both as a confidant and a motivator. Our dialogue evolves into an exploration of self-awareness, questioning its importance for sustainable health, and debating the necessity of lifelong coaching. For those looking to connect with a dedicated coach or simply seeking inspiration to embark on their own journey of transformation, this episode is an empowering resource.
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Welcome to Healers Talk Healing, the podcast where we gather to explore the art and science of holistic healing, uncovering the secrets to a happier, healthier you. I'm your host, nina Ganguly, and together we will delve into the intriguing world of holistic healing, delving into the mind-body connection, ancient wisdom and natural remedies to the mind-body connection, ancient wisdom and natural remedies. Get ready for enlightening stories, thought-provoking expert interviews and practical tips that will empower you to unlock your true potential and embrace a vibrant, balanced life. Whether you're an experienced wellness enthusiast or simply curious about the power of healing, join us on this exhilarating journey as we share the wisdom and insights that can truly transform your life. It's time to embark on a voyage towards a happier, healthier you. So, without further ado, let's dive into the captivating world of Healers Talk Healing. Welcome to this episode of Healers Talk Healing. Today, I'm excited to be speaking with personal trainer Courtney Alexander.
Speaker 1:Courtney was born and raised in the vibrant city of Los Angeles. Following a stint where he broadened his horizons at Michigan State University, courtney returned to his roots in LA as a personal trainer. Courtney has an extensive and diverse portfolio, having worked with individuals from various walks of life, from CEOs and doctors to college students and stay-at-home parents. He prides himself on his ability to connect with his clients on a personal level and guide them towards achieving their fitness goals. From a young age, courtney developed a profound love for physical activity, whether it was engaging in sports, practicing martial arts or exploring the great outdoors through hiking, his passion for staying active has always been the cornerstone of his life. This enthusiasm for movement and health is something he eagerly shares with his clients, inspiring them to find joy in activity and to pursue a healthier, more active lifestyle.
Speaker 1:Through his work, courtney embodies the spirit of dedication both to his own principles of fitness and to the wellness of those he trains. His approach is not just about achieving fitness goals, but fostering a lifelong love for physical activity and a commitment to well-being. Whether you're looking for the motivation to start, strategies to overcome obstacles or just a spark of joy and movement, you'll find something here to inspire your next step on your healing journey. I am so excited to have Courtney Alexander with us on this episode of Healers Talk Healing and, as you all know, I always have a little bit of preamble before I press record, and I asked Courtney the question that I ask everybody, and what is so funny to me, courtney, is everybody's face was exactly like your face when I asked. The question is what is your definition of healing?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean that's not surprising, because it's probably not a question that most people asked or thought about, even if they are like a healer. But what you asked me, that question, and what popped in my head was just kind of anything that helps, would help you to more fully express yourself. So, generally, when we're unhealed, uh, in any way physically, mentally, emotionally, whatever uh, there's something that is blocking us from being the full expression of ourselves. So, physically, if I have a hurt ankle, it's going to make it hard for me to walk. Uh, mentally or emotionally, um, if I have any sort of baggage, it's going to keep me from being who I really want to be. You know, I may unintentionally hurt others or hurt myself in the process, and yeah, so I think that's really what it is. To me, it's just like anything that will help you more fully be who you are or be who you want to be.
Speaker 1:That is such a beautiful answer. It's the first one I've heard like that. To be honest with you, and you're right, it's like there's something to be said about not being able to be fully self-expressed. And it's funny that you say that because it's something that you know that's one of my pillars is I want everyone to have that space of full self-expression. And for you, with working with people at a physical level, how do you find um, when people are not, you know, coming from a space of not feeling healed and I'm not talking about physically healed, because I understand that. I understand if something is physically not broken, it's less conceptual when it's physically something's broken or not working or your body's not working the way you want it to work, what that means. But how do you feel self-expression is being held back when you're working with someone and it's stopping them from like pushing towards the next level?
Speaker 2:Okay, wait, okay. Please ask the question one more time.
Speaker 1:Sure, yeah, I know it's a little convoluted because I'm thinking about this as we're speaking. I want to understand for those of us who deal with not just some physical ailments. Right, we come to see a trainer such as yourself, and a lot of times there's a lot more going on than just the physical and a lot of times we come I'm saying we as a general, we as a general, we, as you know, a lot of people will come to you and you had mentioned this in your in your interview on the directory. You know people come and they want to like this whole, like let's go and let's go full throttle, and then all and throughout the time, that motivation, that level of intensity, starts to slow down. And how do you feel? People begin to heal as they're working with you, or the unhealed parts of them might show up as they're working with you. How does that impact your ability to work with them?
Speaker 2:How does that impact?
Speaker 2:Um, how does that impact? Uh, well, okay. So a lot of times it'll show up as lack of discipline or or um, on the other side, it can show up as people who are like super gung-ho and haven't really taken the time to kind of understand what their motivations are, um, what their limits are. That sort of thing it can show up, yeah, a lot of time it's, yeah, it's really lack of a lot of. I see it a lot as lack of motivation, quitting that sort of thing. Yeah, that's that's really how it shows up for me, and I can personally be frustrating. But yeah, my job is to kind of work with them to overcome those, those boundaries. And the way I generally do it is by, like, maybe stepping people into it, like building habits over time. Because if you rush gently, what happens a lot of times say so, for instance, people, a lot of people, will get on the crash diets and I'll give them this laundry list of foods to eat and how many calories and all sorts of stuff, and they can stick to it. For, you know, they may stick to it for a month or two, but after that generally they'll gain the weight right back because they haven't really built up the habits to get them there, so kind of. So that's what I do, so it'll show up as that. But, as I'm thinking about it, a lot of it stems from or another issue that I see is kind of lack of belief that they can do it sort of thing. So, even though they want the help, there's this like blockage to them actually feeling like they can do it. And it's my job again to kind of show them incrementally like, hey, look, you did this. Okay, cool, you did that. Now let's do this next thing, and then this next thing and this next thing, and gradually, day after day, they're building the confidence in themselves, they're breaking their sort of self-limiting beliefs. And that can show up in lots of different ways from just like, oh, I can't stop eating this, or I can't stop eating that, and then, just for a day, just, you know, take a day off from the candy, you know, instead of eating it five times a week, let's just drop it on three times a week, that sort of thing. And then they realize, oh, I can do that. Similar thing with lifting weights All the time.
Speaker 2:I'll see people and they're like I just can't do this and I go why don't you try? They're like I just can't. And I go, okay, so just try it. And then they do, I show them the proper technique and then, lo and behold, there it is. They've done it and they've proven it to themselves, and then we're kind of off to the races after that. So that's I see that a lot like self-limiting beliefs, um, and yeah, that's kind of that's where a lot of it stems from, just like um, self-limiting beliefs, and then also to um, yeah, again, like I said, just lack of like self-understanding what their boundaries are, what they are capable of at the minute, and then getting frustrated with that. I think those are um. So I hope that answers the question. It does it, does it really?
Speaker 1:does, because then, of course, I have more questions, because that's my job, to ask the questions. What I heard in what you're saying is something that I think we deal with in all aspects of our life when we're trying something different or something new. So there was two things, which is the belief system that we have about what is possible for us, and then also the habits that we have and the willingness to break habits or take on new habits. So the first question I want to talk about is habits, because it's a big, big, big. I'm saying big thing because, depending on when somebody comes to you, like, let's just be honest, the older we are, the more you know, the more we dig into the way things should be, can be, are, versus when, when we're younger, and habits are habits.
Speaker 1:But how long have in your line of work? How long have you? Not how long, but have you noticed how long does it generally take for someone to finally say, hey, ok, this is now part of my daily routine. It's. I don't need to think about this anymore, because there used to be this rule of thumb it took 21 days to form a habit. I don't believe that Three weeks. I have noticed with my own clients that no three weeks. Sometimes I personally have noticed a minimum of 90 days before somebody's like oh, I'm not even thinking about this anymore, I'm just getting up, I'm going to see Courtney, I'm going to do this, and then I'm going to go on with the rest of my day. What's it been like for you?
Speaker 2:Yeah, when you said 21 days, my first thought was BS. Um, yeah, when you said 21 days, my first thought was bs. Uh, yeah, unfortunately. Um, it's a 21. I don't I forgot where that comes from. It probably come from one case study or something like that. But yeah, that it it'll take generally longer than that.
Speaker 2:Uh, generally we're talking about months, sometimes even years, because people have relapses. Um, so I know a lot of people they're not going to love to hear that, but I mean that's just kind of the way it is and the way you make it easy. Well, okay, so the thing is you're trying to make it a part of your identity so it doesn't feel so much like work. So, for instance, for me, I've been, you know, an athlete or doing in fitness so long that even on days where I don't feel like going to the gym, like I go, because now it's a part of me, I'm like the guy that goes to the gym. You know what I mean. And on days, even when I don't feel like it if I've missed it then it feels weird and that's like, that's like. So, while we're looking at at months, the timeline is months and you know every it's going to be different for everybody, but yeah, generally I just say it's going to be a couple months to really ingrain a new habit, and there's always exceptions, but we're talking in generalities.
Speaker 1:I love that you said it becomes part of your identity, like you know, they people do identify with who they are and how they conduct themselves in life. And when it becomes part of who you are like I'm somebody who goes to the gym versus. I think we are so hard on ourselves when we do relapse, when we fall off the bandwagon, so to speak, or we're not doing what we know to do. I think to have some grace for ourselves to say, okay, I didn't go today, I'll go tomorrow, before those like didn't go doesn't happen over like a week or something. But how did you work with your clients when they're in that space, you know the space of not seeing the results that I want. It's not going as quickly as I'd like it to.
Speaker 1:I am committed to what this, what's happening, those plateau moments and the all of the stuff that's behind it, all of the limiting beliefs, all of the stuff it comes up. In my experience working with clients, limiting beliefs don't disappear. What happens is you get a hold of them a lot better and you talk to them like no, no, yeah, you might not say I'm, you know, you might say this today to me, but that's, that's not who I'm going to be today. How do you work with clients in that space? They've moved from gung-ho and now they're like I can't do this or I don't want to do this anymore.
Speaker 2:So for me, what I do is I kind of so I have to both look at. So I sit down kind of with the client or we'll have a meeting. But so I sit down kind of with the client or we'll have a meeting, and I generally talk about what's going on, what the results are, what the inputs are like, what they're actually doing, and then I have to look at what I'm doing or just look at the program to see and see if it whatever I've told them to do whether that be like the number of days I need them to be on the treadmill, or they're not upping the weight when they're not with me, or they're not working out when they're not with me, or their diet's off, and that's a huge one. It's generally the diet, because that's the hardest thing. We all love our food. Sorry, I forgot, I got lost in thought. What was the question? Again?
Speaker 1:Sorry, the question is.
Speaker 2:You know how do you help your clients when they're in that space.
Speaker 1:I can't, I don't want to the whole piece.
Speaker 2:Okay, cool, cool, cool, sorry, Okay, yeah. So, like I said, so I'll assess what I'm doing and I'll look at their habits, but also too, like you were saying, they're gonna have to realize that you're gonna fall off the bandwagon and you're not always going to be perfect. So I kind of I keep them motivated by showing them what they have done, the positive things they have done, of reminding them that they've done these things and reminding them that they can do them. That's a really huge part of it. A really big part of the job is just kind of like emotional support, to be honest, keeping people motivated in that way and just like both supporting them but also keeping them, holding them accountable for the things that they have signed up to do.
Speaker 2:So the way I set goals with my clients is generally I'm not going for some huge, lofty goal in the beginning if I don't think we can hit that. And so I talk to them and I go, hey, look, is this something that you feel is doable? Right? And then we work from what we both agree they can do. So then when we look back at something, there's some account so they can. If they're not doing it, then I can go. Remember you said this is totally doable for you, right, and I can go. Okay, yeah, you're right, okay, I can do this. So then they're like okay, cool, let's do it next time. And I kind of just both hold them accountable but also give them, um, give them grace and ask themselves to give themselves or to give themselves the space you know to like to be human and to to mess up, um, and then we kind of just move forward from there and if we need to set new goals, then we do, and if not, then we just get back on the horse.
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Speaker 1:I love that you said that you show them like, literally, this is how far you've come and also remind them of where you want to go. And it sounds exactly like coaching, to be honest, like life coaching, fitness coaching. I think there's there's a there's a there's a space where we forget very easily how far we've come. I have this conversation with you, know, my, my friends and my contemporaries. All the time we, as human beings, we forget who we were three months ago or even a month ago or even three weeks ago, when we start to delve into something new. And I think it's important, especially as a fitness coach, because I'm sure it's so challenging to get people, to get them into the gym and keep them there or wherever it is that you're going, even when you show up I know you do a lot of in home and that kind of thing to even have people not cancel on you last minute.
Speaker 1:I remember when I was working with a trainer and I swear like 10 minutes before every every session, I'd be like I think I'm just going to call her. I don't want to do it. But I will say this that I got the best results when I worked with a personal trainer, and not only did I want the listeners to get. It's not just about body movement. There's so much more involved, like you said. There's so much emotional support that needs to be there to have someone break through that space of I don't think I can do this, like you know, here pile on another couple of pounds and you know they're like no, no, no, I don't want to do that or dealing with that space that we get in to the headspace that comes in. But have you ever noticed that you have a client and you're working with them and they start off like not being interested, that day particularly or that session, but by the time you're done, they're.
Speaker 2:They're like I'm so glad you showed up um, yeah, I mean, um, I think that happens a lot. It happens a lot of my workouts when, like I said, I don't always feel like going to the gym, but after you go to the gym you get your, your endorphins, you know, pumping, and you get the get the blood flowing. Generally, just exercise just kind of makes you feel better, even if it was hard. So we're speaking so specifically about fitness. Yeah, I think that's that's pretty, that's pretty normal. And then, just in general, after you've done the thing that you know that you signed up to do or you wanted to do, you just feel better about yourself, right.
Speaker 2:And one of the things that I kind of forgot to mention as far as, like, keeping people motivated, is that I just remind them of why they're doing it, because that's this. One of the things I always ask is like why do you want to do this, right? So, kind of going back to your question, like this is something that you wanted to do. So when you're doing the thing that you wanted to do, you're going to feel better, right, yeah, because you wanted to do it. So, yeah, it's a I, yeah, I find that happens all the time.
Speaker 1:And thank you for saying that because it is so important to connect to the why, and when I'm working with clients, I do the same thing. It's connecting to the why and getting to the deeper level of you know why is it? You are here for anything, for whatever it happens to be, and when we, when we like, get back to that place to like, oh yeah, yeah, I said I wanted to do this because I want to live longer, or I want to play with my kids, or I just want to lose weight so that I can move better, whatever it happens to be, in the, in the fitness world or any world, uh, for that matter, it is so important to be reminded of, of the, of the why. I do have, uh, another question for you, because you did say you know it's not. This is not just in fitness, it's in anywhere.
Speaker 1:If you accomplish something that you said you were going to set out to do, it makes a profound difference. So when you're working with clients and they're in their funk or whatever, are you also delving into? Okay, well, what's going on outside here? Like, why is this showing up right now, in this moment? Do you, do you have to life coach as well?
Speaker 2:uh, I'm laughing because, uh, definitely. So what I find is that, um, it's like half personal trainer, half therapist and I feel like, uh, you hear this in a lot of professions, like estheticheticians, people who do hair, barbers, whatever, just people who kind of service providers who see people pretty regularly. You can become friends or confidants to people and they kind of just tell you everything. So I mean, yeah, and, and the job is just, you know, you again, you have to know why they're not feeling good, what the motivations are for even for a specific day, of why they may or may not feel good. So, yeah, I definitely kind of delve into that and yeah, it's just kind of part of the process. I mean, I couldn't imagine like going through a personal training session and not like talking to your client and like finding out about, like what's going on in their lives. Like it'd be pretty awkward to me. So yeah, I definitely kind of get into like the behind the scenes what's going on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I think it's really important, first of all, obviously, to create a good relationship with whomever you're working with, but secondly, it does help you, help your clients, to understand where they're coming from or where they're at in those moments, so that you can help them push through what they don't feel like or they don't think that they can do. But there's something you you said in your, in your introduction interview, which is about being in the right mindset. You know, and you know we are, you know, the miracles director. We're for holistic healers and holistic healing mind, body, soul. What is your um sort of routine? What do you do for yourself? Uh, when it comes to mindset, when it comes to spirituality, what, what is, what do you do?
Speaker 2:Uh, me personally, personally. Um, so I go to the gym. Obviously I meditate every day. I eat pretty clean, all right, yeah, I eat pretty clean. Um, I eat pretty clean, but I also give myself a little bit of room for, like, for some fun.
Speaker 1:I like the way you're like, do I eat clean? No, no yeah, no.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know I definitely eat clean, but no, no, I definitely eat clean, but then I'm thinking about like, oh, this weekend, when I was out, but you know that's part of it Like you have to give yourself some room, otherwise you go crazy. I do that. I do a lot of martial arts, I like a lot of physical activity, meditation every day, yeah, just generally trying to feed my mind with like healthy stuff, reading and, you know, expand my mindset. Yeah, I'm really big on like, uh, like personal growth and stuff like that so yeah, as you can tell, so am I.
Speaker 1:I I'm definitely into all of the well, probably more heavily into spirituality at the moment more than anything else. But I have a question when you are working with clients and if you have clients that are more holistic in nature, is there a difference in the results or a difference in the way they show up? Than than than not?
Speaker 2:um, I I don't think I've found, honestly, um, I don't think I've really found a difference, uh, between like a person of um who is more like spiritually minded versus people who are a bit more like materialistic or anything. Honestly, um, generally, the people who tend to do the best are just, um, the people who can kind of stick to the plan, who are like pretty self-aware Um, who are like pretty self-aware um, that's a, that's a big one, um, and who were just, who are also willing to kind of put aside their ego when they need to, that's that's also a big one, um, because I can get in the way, um, but I would say, yeah, like discipline, kind of putting aside the ego when you need to, and then, uh, self-awareness, those are pretty important.
Speaker 2:But aside from that, like, whatever they're eating, as long as they're not eating like crap, but it doesn't matter to, kind of if they're, like you know, vegetarian or meat eaters or whatever. I don't see like a huge difference in the results because of things like that. Okay, okay, interesting interesting.
Speaker 1:Um, there's something that you said that I really liked was the self-awareness piece, and how do you work with people who perhaps aren't as self-aware as they need to be to help them move past their hurdles?
Speaker 2:um, kind of like you said, a lot of it is coaching, so like asking questions.
Speaker 2:so they can asking questions so that they can kind of delve into themselves and figure out, like what it is about them that's holding them back. And then sometimes, like the occasional, sometimes I just I just have to tell them the answer, just because it's it's something like really specific, but a lot of like um, a lot of question asking, because I feel, um, like the. My first thought is, like you always hear this, like the best way to get somebody to do something is to get them to believe it was like their idea, sort of.
Speaker 2:thing a good way to motivate people, but also like to like. A lot of times I'm like leading questions like that to get them to where I want them to go, whether that is for like an action or to get them to unpack something that they're not saying, that I'm saying. Hopefully that answers.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's great, it's. All I'm hearing is just the same things that I do with my clients. It's, you know, you see something, but the best way for them to actually become self-aware, for it to be more than just contextual, is if they discover it for themselves, and the best way to do that is by asking questions. So for those listeners out there who think you know you're just showing up to, you know, think you know you're just showing up to, you know press, you know do a workout, it's more than just a workout, it's a lot more than that, and I think that you know. I want to emphasize that when you go to the, when you're working with a trainer or a coach, they're in, you are, and I am invested in the outcome just as much as they are, and it's not about our success, because our success is our client's success, I believe. And so, yeah, you know, for for the listeners, be ready when you're working with a trainer, that it's not just about you know what, it's not just solely about what you're doing in the gym, it's a lot more. And then you know, courtney, I I say this in appreciation, because I have worked with trainers who just want to kick your butt, but they're not interested in anything else. And then for me, my experience was I couldn't walk for days because they could push so hard and me at the time being a people pleaser, I'd be like, okay, I'll try, but to have someone to sit to say, okay, well, why, why do you actually don't think you can do this? You know, and and showing that care and consideration for more than just you're someone that I'm helping get into physical shape, what I'm hearing you say, and maybe you don't realize it, is that you're actually helping them get into mental shape, because you need that mental shape in order to get into physical shape. And then, well, that's my belief anyways, you know it's all tied in, Everything is tied in anyways. You know there's it's all tied in, it's, everything is is tied in.
Speaker 1:And once you become more aware of how you show up as a client and how you show up as as a coach or a healer, it makes a profound difference. So you know, on behalf of the people that you work with, if they don't say thank you, I'd like to say thank you, cause it takes something to deal with people who don't want to show up. Not everybody is happy to get to the gym, at the beginning or in the middle, somewhere in there I'm sure you're they're dealing with themselves. So it's really important for the listeners and for us to really understand that it's. It's all a journey and it takes several different things to help you get to the place you go to.
Speaker 1:My final question before we, before we kind of close off today, is one of the things that I see so many people struggle with is sustainability. Over time and I know it's there's something about habits, but also, what else do you feel needs to be incorporated for sustainability? Like, do we need to have coaches for the rest of our lives? Like, what is your opinion on that?
Speaker 2:For that, honestly, I think it depends on the person. I think some people, I think some people like once you've taught them, then they, if they are self-motivated, they can continue. They can continue on their own after they've learned what they need to learn. But for a lot of people in my experience, like they're coming to trainers because so I've had multiple people come to me and they're just like look, I've been working all day, I'm tired, just tell me what to do, right. And there's those people too who just want somebody to kind of take the stress off of them, like the load off of their brain, and just have them and just have you, just tell you, just tell them what to do. And so I see both. So I think it really just depends on what the person is looking for, what the person is looking for. But I certainly think there are people who once they've learned kind of what they, what they, what I have to give them, then they can certainly go off and do it themselves. But some people want that and some people don't.
Speaker 1:Okay, Got it Well. Thank you so much for your time today. If people want to get in touch with you, I know they can find you on the miracles directory, but is there any other place that they can get in touch with you?
Speaker 2:I know they can find you on the miracles directory, but is there any other place that they can get in touch with you? They can get in touch. They can go to my website is thatotherfitguycom, or they can reach me on Instagram. It's at thatotherfitguy.
Speaker 1:Awesome. Well, thank you so much again for your time. It was a pleasure speaking with you and maybe we'll chat again. You never know.
Speaker 2:Okay, take care. Awesome, thank you very much.
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