Healers Talk Healing Podcast
The Healers Talk Healing podcast invites you on a transformative journey towards holistic healing, where we explore the mind-body connection, natural remedies, and ancient wisdom to empower you to live a vibrant and balanced life. Join us as we share inspiring stories, expert interviews, and practical tips to help you unlock your true potential and embrace a happier, healthier you.
Healers Talk Healing Podcast
Bridging Consciousness: Unveiling the Silent Language of Animals with Angela Zeyn
Ever wondered if your beloved pet could understand the emotional ebb and flow of your life? Imagine a world where we could bridge the gap between human and animal consciousness. Angela Zeyn, a seasoned animal communicator, joins us to unravel the silent language of our pets, revealing the astonishing mutual healing that can occur when we learn to listen closely. From the moment I sat down—cat on my lap, dog by my side—I knew this was going to be an extraordinary exploration of the depth of connection possible with our furry friends.
As we ventured through tales of telepathic dialogues with animals, Angela illuminated the path to deeper bonds with our companions, sharing practices that can help quiet the mind and align our energies with theirs. She shared poignant stories from her own life, where animals served as both healers and teachers, offering insights into the true nature of empathy and understanding. My own attempts at Reiki with my dog suddenly didn't feel quite so far-fetched. This conversation isn't just about embracing the silent whispers of our pets; it's a primer on how presence and attentiveness can transform all our relationships.
The episode crescendos with a profound reflection on our collective responsibility to the natural world, prompting a reevaluation of our dominion over animals and a celebration of their intrinsic value. Angela and I pondered the delicate balance between honoring our nutritional needs and ethical consumption, sharing personal anecdotes that highlight the power of gratitude and sustainable practices. For every listener drawn to the enigmatic world of animal communication, seeking healing, or simply yearning for a closer bond with nature, this dialogue promises to be a wellspring of empowerment and a reminder of our shared interconnectivity with all life.
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Welcome to Healer's Talk Healing, the podcast where we gather to explore the art and science of holistic healing, uncovering the secrets to a happier, healthier you. I'm your host, nina Ganguly, and together we will delve into the intriguing world of holistic healing, delving into the mind-body connection, ancient wisdom and natural remedies. Get ready for enlightening stories, thought-provoking expert interviews and practical tips that will empower you to unlock your true potential and embrace a vibrant, balanced life. Whether you're an experienced wellness enthusiast or simply curious about the power of healing, join us on this exhilarating journey as we share the wisdom and insights that can truly transform your life. It's time to embark on a voyage towards a happier, healthier you. So, without further ado, let's dive into the captivating world of Healer's Talk Healing.
Speaker 1:In today's episode, we're excited to introduce Angela Zen, a profoundly intuitive and skilled animal communicator with a remarkable ability to connect with animals, and sometimes insects, on a deep level. Angela's journey into honing her innate gifts began in childhood and has only grown stronger with time, guided by a diverse range of teachers, including an unconventional yet pivotal mentor, a snake that lived with her for seven years. This unique experience has sharpened her skills, enabling her to communicate more clearly and adeptly with all animals and to energetically sense and address their physical ailments. Angela's credentials are equally impressive, including certifications in massage therapy, multiple degrees in Reiki and roles as a spiritual mentor and ordained minister. This episode is a must listen for anyone intrigued by the deep, often unexplored connections between humans and animals. Angela's insights offer a rare glimpse into the ways we can understand and interact with the animal world, highlighting the blessings and the lessons these interactions bring into our lives.
Speaker 1:Whether you're a pet owner, animal lover or someone interested in the intuitive and spiritual realms, angela's stories and abilities will inspire you to consider the profound impact of animal communication. Join us to explore the incredible journey of a woman who never takes her gift for granted, and learn how it can eliminate the lives of both animals and their human companions. Oh, I am very excited to have Angela here with us today. We're going to get into a really interesting conversation on this episode, not one that I've had before. So I'm super excited to be speaking with you, angela. But before we begin, I always ask this question to all of our guests and the question is for the listeners who've been listening, they know what it is what is your definition of healing?
Speaker 2:Well, when you ask me that question, I could have two sides to it. It's the healing of the individual or the person. That is quote-on-quote the healer. So I guess I'll answer both of them. Huh.
Speaker 2:Why not For me as a healer. I'm really just a conduit. I'm a conduit for the energy to move through me, which moves through every single one of us and everything on the planet. It doesn't matter what it is. We all have this life force, energy that moves through us and as a healer, I'm just the conduit for that to move through. And because I've done my own healing work, it allows me to have it move through clearer, more abundantly, I think, because I'm more awake to it and open to it moving through me.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, when it comes to the person being healed, that's really up to them too, because I could do all the things that I know to do and more whatever I'm guided, because I'm always constantly learning something new every single time and I'm so grateful for that. But I can work on somebody until I'm blue in the face and worn out and laying down on the ground because I'm so worn out. But it's up to that individual to receive a healing and it doesn't mean that the healing is coming from me. It's from source and from their own being to open up and say, yeah, I want this for myself. That's where the healing happens. There's a saying heal or heal thyself. So I've had to do my work so I can understand that when I'm working with other individuals, whether I'm just talking to them or I'm doing hands on healing or I'm just moving energy or whatever is happening a lot of that awareness goes through me because I've already experienced it so I can help them more sometimes. So that was around.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's how my view on healing yeah, it's so true about the openness of the other person, the person that comes for the healing. And it's interesting when I don't know if you've experienced this when you have someone who wants the healing but still is like you can feel the resistance so that having that peace move within them. What do you do when you're working with someone or talking to someone who's like, yes, I want that and they're there with you, whether it's distance or in person, and yet there's still something there?
Speaker 2:When it comes up in my awareness, I usually call it out in the awareness of the individual so they can be aware of it, because somewhere inside of all of us we have the awareness, whether we want to admit to it or not, or whether we want to shove it down in the corner somewhere or act like it doesn't exist, it does.
Speaker 2:So I always bring the awareness to the individual that I'm picking up on that, that they have this resistance or a block or they have fear, and sometimes they just need it, comforted through the fear of the unknown or something's going to change. Because most people that have any blocks or not wanting to receive it completely are in fear of the unknown because they're in such a pattern. It's a loop of energy, of programming, of a way of being, of actions, non-actions, whatever it is that they're so used to being in. So to get out of that is like a shock to the system and what do I do and who am I without that? So once, personally, once I bring that awareness to individuals, they most of the time I can't say every time, but most of the time individuals will shift with that and go oh okay, thank you, and they just really need support to know that they're not alone in that and that it's okay to be freaked out. Yeah, I think that's why you said that?
Speaker 1:because most of us don't think it's okay to freak out or to let go or to just feel what's there We've been conditioned to. I've even done it with my kids when they were looping. They were like wear your tears, no tears, put them away. Well, mostly when they were crocodile, and you know they were fake If they were like actual feelings, that's not what I did. But when I was growing up, definitely we were not allowed to express our emotions, ones that were uncomfortable, and particularly, I think, in the culture that I've grown up in, which is the South Asian culture, you don't express any emotions that are not uncomfortable or that are uncomfortable sorry, any emotions that are uncomfortable.
Speaker 1:So listening to you say that, hey, it's okay, that's what we want as healers our listeners to understand that it is okay all the feelings, good, bad, whatever they are, the whole gamut. And there's something I always say I've heard other people say it now since I've been saying it because it's the way the world works. It's like you feel the feelings, deal with the feelings, heal the feelings. It's the only way to really move forward inside of healing. So I'm glad that you said that. I think, knowing that you have a partner that's going to provide that space. And you said, like being that conduit to leave some room for humanity.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's important because and I always tell people, for God's sakes, let it out, whatever it is, whether you need to scream, cry, roll around, throw a fit, get on the floor and have a tantrum, go, run around, you know, whatever, however, it wants to come out. But I also advise them don't get stuck in it. It's not because some people have a way of like oh, don't, like melt down and then the next thing you know they are melting down for months and it doesn't mean they don't have a lot of stuff to release. People can get really in that and then they're in victim mode or I'm in trauma all the time. I let people know, like, let it out, but move forward with yourself at the same time. Don't get stuck in it. Like, release it. Maybe the release is only going to be for two minutes, maybe the release is going to be for, you know, all throughout the day. Whatever it is, but don't get stuck in the release.
Speaker 2:I wasn't someone to necessarily cry for a long time and then when I would laugh, I would go into hysterical laughter more and I'd have that nervous laughter Right, and that's how I released a lot. And when I, as I was doing my own healing work. Then the crying began, and then I didn't stop.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let's talk a little bit more about your own, your own journey through healing. You know, because you said you know healer heal by self. I think it's important for our healers that are listening, not just people who are looking for support, but people who are in in this space doing the work helping others. You know what has your journey been like in the healer heal by self.
Speaker 2:Wow, it's been a long road.
Speaker 1:It's like a never ending road. I think, huh, I feel like it's a never ending road.
Speaker 2:Well, it really is a never ending road, because there's some that's like saying you know I'm healed, or I've learned everything. Now you haven't. And for the rest of your life you're going to be going on. And it gets easier because it's that, that concept of the layers of the onion as you get further into the onion, the layers are thinner and it's not as thick and hard to get through. So, just you know, even though I've been on my pathway of healing since I was in my early 20s, Um, and now I'm 52, which is like wow, how'd that happen?
Speaker 1:I hear you sister.
Speaker 2:Well, you know, it gets easier. And when it comes up now it's easier for me to recognize and go oh, okay, there's a little bit of that still going on. It's like it gets the longer you go. It's stuff may still come up and you're like, oh, I have to deal with this some more. But if you can look at it as it's just peppered in there like a season, you know, the further you go, oh, it comes up. But oh, I can just wash that away or shoot away like crumbs. It's nothing unless I feed into it and make it a big thing. So you know my own healing.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't say that I was thrown into it. I really made a conscious choice to do the work for myself. I shoved a lot of stuff down with drugs and alcohol and crazy lifestyle, and then I would get nightmares that it was like, no matter how high I got or what I did, I couldn't suppress things anymore. It was coming out like loud and clear, like you got to deal with this and some of that stuff I honestly didn't completely accept until I was in my 30s, because I still want to take it as oh, I must be imagining this or I created this somehow, but I didn't.
Speaker 2:So I did all the work around it to get to the point to really accept some certain things that happened to me in my childhood and it's been a process, but you know, as you, if the more willing you are to keep walking through the shitstorms and through hell, you know there's a quote that says if you're walking, if you're going through hell, keep walking. You know it's important to keep going, no matter what the scenario is and what's going on. And there were some really hard times that were really heavy and hard and I wondered if I'd ever get through them. But it's a decision and that's something I tell people all the time and I tell myself all the time is it's a decision. Once you make a decision, stay in your decision and no matter what comes up, because you've made this intention and this decision, everything comes to help you.
Speaker 2:The universe joins in. Your angels, your ancestors, the whole crew, whoever you connect to, is going to join in and help it happen. But it's the decision I love.
Speaker 1:I love that Because it's it is so true. I talk about this and, and you know, in all of my conversations, my dog conversations are so different once I began my healing journey than they were before. But it's so true.
Speaker 1:There's that piece of intention like what is it that you want at the end of all of this, all of this stuff that we have in life? What is it that you want? And then being having that willingness to continue, like you said, to walk through how, when it feels like it's, it couldn't possibly get any worse.
Speaker 1:For you as you begin the healing and what I want for the listeners to get is really to understand that I'm not even talking about the drama that we create around it.
Speaker 1:The fact is, yes, sometimes we do when, like you were saying, you can get into the drama and you can live and live and be in a victim cycle.
Speaker 1:It's the piece of working to get to a place of acceptance of what is and understanding that it won't, it can't change, like we get stuck.
Speaker 1:I think the healing part is healing things that have happened to us in the past and the end, accepting that it's happened and then working through it and knowing you know all the stuff that happens with the PTSD and you know maybe flashbacks or being in a similar situation and bringing some of those things back with you and knowing that it's okay to do the things that you mentioned, like screaming or having a tantrum or you know, for me, the first thing I always say is I just want to punch that thing in the face, whatever it is.
Speaker 1:You know going to one of those rooms where you can just hit things and I don't know. That's the way I guess I feel I don't hit people but or things. But I'm saying you know you can get to one of those rec rooms and just go at it and do what you need to do and give yourself space to do and that's the important piece to note here is to give ourselves the space and the compassion to do it and to know that there is, it's stuff is still gonna come up, yeah, all the time.
Speaker 2:Always.
Speaker 1:For those that the listeners can't see the cat, but I can see the cat.
Speaker 2:Thank you. I had to sit on the bed because it was the best light in my house right at this time of day.
Speaker 1:And yeah, it's like a cat, and cat has made perfect timing, because there's a skill that you have that is very unique, and I want to talk about this because I have a dog. I've had many dogs over my lifetime growing up, and so the listeners. Angela works with animals as well and heals animals, and I find that fascinating because in my brain I'm like maybe I can do Reiki on my dog and then I'm not connecting, nothing's happening. You know, and maybe that's something I have to practice, I'm not sure. But what is it like working with animals?
Speaker 2:I love working with animals. They're the easiest because they're very clear. They're very, very black and white. They don't give you the gray stuff, they tell it as it is.
Speaker 2:They tell it as they see it, as they know it to be. Actually, I'm sorry I got the one cat under the blanket and the other cat keeps squawking on her and she's growling, so if you hear her under there she's, like you know, sorry about that. So, talking to animals, it's the best because they're just so easy to deal with and it's very straightforward and they come from the truth. They come from source, as it is. You know they don't. They're not mixed up by an ego or wanting things, and it's not to say that they don't want things. So they don't have their own personality, because they do, and they definitely have their happiness. There's a whole thing going on right now.
Speaker 2:Their happiness and non-happiness, but it's I don't know, it's amazing. It's. One of my favorite things to do is to talk to animals, and it's usually the animals helping their people more than the people helping their animals honestly.
Speaker 1:That is so lovely it is.
Speaker 2:It is lovely, it's really helpful. I've been talking to animals for a really long time and I didn't do it professionally until I don't know, maybe 12 years ago I'm going to guess off the top of my head, actually less than that, I think and one of my clients was like you're always telling me these stories, how you're out talking to snakes on hikes and you're talking to this animal and that animal, why aren't you doing this professionally? And I'm like, oh good, thought, yeah, and it was interesting to move it into the context of doing like sessions with people and stuff, because it was always just happening to me, naturally when.
Speaker 2:I would be in nature or with my own animals, and I wasn't even. It's funny, even to this day I don't have tons of conversations with my own animals. It's like we talk and I know we understand each other, but some people are like, well, don't you know this about them or that? And I'm like I don't know if I need to know this or that about them, like we know what we need to know about each other like anyone else, right? So yeah, I don't know what do you want to know about talking about animals?
Speaker 1:I think it's very, it's so cool because, you know, I think we okay, I'm not going to say we, I'm going to say I, because it's coming from me.
Speaker 2:I can't remember the whole population.
Speaker 1:but you know what I imagine it. I imagine that they are like we see them in cartoons when they have the personalities and they're talking and you know they're saying stuff and we're trying to understand it. They hear our human language and we hear their animal language and you know, all we can tell is through the emotions, because I think you, if you're an animal lover, you can feel definitely the emotions of your animal, whatever animal that you have. I mean, my daughter had a chameleon and that chameleon I was like I felt something for the chameleon, even though I had no idea. You know what it was, what she wanted or anything like that. You know I got attached to the chameleon.
Speaker 1:I still feel a little sad that you know she had such a short life, but I wonder what it would have been like to be able to say to her well, what is it like when she stopped eating it? What is it that you need, how, what can I do to support you to, you know, so that she could have had a longer life? And you know I have a. I have a retriever right now and lovingly I say he's special needs because he's very strange animal. He makes me laugh all the time, but I think that what I want to know is what is it like to experience them at that level where I think it's like a beautiful, deep connection? Join the Miracles Directory, where healers connect and wellness begins. Join a community of trusted holistic professionals or find your path to healing and peace. Visit the miracles directorycom. Start your journey today.
Speaker 2:It's when I take myself there right now to give that to you. It's peaceful, funny, I laugh a lot with them.
Speaker 1:They must think we're crazy. Yeah, they do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know we're crazy ourselves. They do, but they're very compassionate and loving and they see things from a higher standpoint. They're not stuck in this 3D world, not that, once again, not to say they don't have issues with something that's going on in their physical world, but they just seem to see things from a higher perspective. They're like little wise sages running around and we do feel in general, people feel their emotions from their animals and pick up on what they're communicating because they telepathically communicate. So it doesn't even matter what language you speak to them, they're going to understand it. People are like what do you mean? Okay, well, I've had boyfriends that are Israeli. I've had boyfriends that are Spanish speaking. It didn't matter, those guys could speak to my animals in any language, or in English, along with it, whatever, and they understand because they go by frequency, vibration, just like the rest of us. Whether we realize it or not, we all go by this and it's so telepathic. They communicate telepathically.
Speaker 2:That's why, when you're like they have an issue with each other meaning your cats or your dog and your cat or some other animal they really have an issue and understand, and it's very silent, but that's because they're having a whole conversation with themselves. So how does it feel? It feels really magical. I have a friend who calls me snowy. I bring this up a lot with people because she's like you're snowy, it's like you've got your own animals. You talk to other animals, you've got the hummingbirds coming to you, the squirrels, the raccoons, whatever Things show up on your front door literally. Yeah, it's just really it's magical, it's a blessing. I feel like it's a huge gift to be able to do that, and I think anybody can do it if they open themselves up to have the conversation.
Speaker 1:I'm going to try that. What do I have to do to open up? That's a good question, Ashley. What can we do to open up to that frequency?
Speaker 2:I've never taught anybody to speak to animals. Honestly, I've taught people a lot of things, but I've never taught them that. Well, actually, what I do say to people is Always communicate to your animals, talk to them about everything oh, we're moving, this is happening, or I'm going away, or this is going on. Communicate with them, because even if you don't hear back, they hear you and they know anyway because they hear you talking to other people, to yourself. They know what's going on, but they like to be included in you, acknowledging them and communicating. When it comes to being open to hear them back, I think it comes down with anything is it's about listening? It's about being quiet enough to listen.
Speaker 2:And if you get some voice in your head that feels like I'm trying to think of an example of just like a statement, like you're asking, I'm asking, I'm asking, I'm talking to talk to you, and you hear like this statement, come More than likely you're picking up on them. You may think it's your own brain tricking you and it's like oh, I'm talking to myself, it's me doing that. No more than likely it's their statement to you, it's them talking to you. I don't really know how to tell people, how to open up to that, suffer. To be open.
Speaker 2:It's like, do the work that anybody would teach you how to become more your third eye, open your spiritual senses, open more to hear Anything. And you know you can do that by working with your chakras, you can do that with breath work, you can do that. I mean, there's so many different modalities of how you can get yourself there, right, but it's just really about opening up to listen, because we're all communicating with each other telepathically anyway, all of us. That's how we know, before the phone rings, somebody's calling us or you know, or you keep thinking about somebody and you talk to them. You're like, yeah, I've been thinking about you or you know, whatever it is. I mean, we have so many scenarios throughout our lives that we can all connect to and go yeah, I had that happen or have this happen. That's telepathic communication. So the more you work on it, it's like a muscle.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:The more you work out you, more you work with it, the stronger it becomes. So that's my real suggestion is be open to listening and do any work you connect with for yourself. That does open you up more and you know, just pay attention.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're so right about that. There's a it's like, basically it's like with anything else, when you're looking to connect to the universe, connect with somebody or something. It is about the awareness and the quiet quietening your mind so you can hear there's. There's so many beautiful nuggets you gave. Just like in general in life, like if you want to connect with someone, be present, be open, listen and listening is, I think, a big human struggle. We need to learn how to listen better overall, and I am going to work on that for myself is to work more on listening for my, my, my, my, my wonderful dog, to see what you know, what he has to share.
Speaker 1:And I think we were just talking about moving and I felt like I never told him we were moving. You know, I never told him and no wonder he was so uncomfortable, and then I didn't tell him. Oh, by the way, you're moving floors now also, now you're going to move to the upstairs floor Because we're going through renovation. So I think we were going to have to have some conversations now, more than I've had in the past, and then that's it's. It's so wonderful what you did, provide a lot, even though you said you didn't. You don't teach people. But for me I'm walking away with. Oh, there's so much more that I can do, as much as I love him. There's so much more that I can do so that he can get his communication across to me, so that I can, you know, give him what, what he needs to feel safe and secure and feel well. I know he's happy, doesn't, as a zoomies all the time, so he gets out of the back and he goes insane which is hilarious.
Speaker 2:You have a dog for sure. You know this is a cute example. I mean, I am who I am and I've been doing what I do for a long time, so I am very open. And but that little cat that was on my lap a few minutes ago, one of the stories there, he was in my life, showing up like hey.
Speaker 2:And long story short is that I was talking to the woman that originally found him and she's like do you still have him? And I'm like, yeah, nobody's, nobody's wanted to adopt him. He was like three weeks old. He was found on a sidewalk covered in ants. She's like did you name him? I'm like I don't want to really get attached right now, just calling him baby. And she's like, oh, he needs a better name than that. So I came home and he was in the kitchen with me and I looked at him and I said, okay, what's your name? And I just got quiet and I heard it. I heard Billy and the indemnity said is your name Billy? And he just started meowing at me and he doesn't always meow. So he I was like, okay, and ever since then, billy is it and he is a Billy. Yeah, you know, it comes down to the simplest moments, but it's all about the listening, and definitely your animals. Please, by all means, talk to them. They understand you. Even though you may not understand them, they understand you.
Speaker 1:All right, I will definitely. You know, I'm going to share that with the family, because if they're hearing what's going on just like children here what's happening between parents, then they're very well aware of the temperature in the household. Of course they sure are. Yeah, so cool. What came to mind is while you were talking about. You know, they say that animals choose their owners, if you allow them to. And I remember when we went to pick up our dog, whose name is Darcy, I told the family okay, this is what we're going to do, we're going to, we're going to stand around and see who's going to come. So we all kind of just stood around and waited and only one puppy came, and that one puppy came to me and that was that was it. And we're like, okay, well, let's see if there's any more. I'm like there is, but we'll see if we feel that connection. So while I'm hearing you share it, I'm reminded that you know he chose us because we just stood there and we're like, okay, I'm just going to wait to see who shows up.
Speaker 2:Yep they do. They choose you. I can tell you all kinds of stories about pets. I've had wild animals. They've seen themselves, but they don't let anyone else see them. It goes on and on, but they definitely choose you, you know. That's why, people, there's the whole thing of animal medicine. Those animals come to share their medicine with you, whether it's a dog or a bird or a snake or, you know, an owl, whatever, a fish or a lizard, whatever it is, they come to share their medicine with you and that's the magic that they carry and the messages.
Speaker 1:Hmm, that's, that's so beautiful. That really it. I'm really a little speechless because I think, I think it's important to remember how magical that they are. And a lot of human beings or this is my opinion anyways feel that you know, we have dominion quote unquote over the natural world, including animals, and it's such a. That's not true.
Speaker 2:No, that's just a programming. For me, I feel that way too. It's a programming. Personally, I feel it's a programming about control, about humans being in control of animals, of the earth, of other humans, of its control. Yeah, they're so magical and they have every right to be here. Just like you and I, it's hard. I don't. I try not to eat animals, but my body, the way my body works is I'm actually healthier and stronger when I do so. I have a real battle, real hard battle, with that of what to do. So what I do is, every time I eat animal protein is I think that I think these the essence of the Animal or animals that came to feed me at that time. Because if I was back in the day, or maybe just different parts of the country or the world, I would hunt Right. And you know now, because of how society is and there's so many billions of people, every there's mass consumption, which is really disturbing because of how they treat the animals. Yeah, it's not.
Speaker 2:They're regarded for anything. They're not a thing, they're not. It's just, it's like a conveyor belt, you know, and that's the hardest situation because of what humans have created. In that you know, at least for me personally, yeah, it's a hard one to deal with, but, you know, I feel some relief if I at least bless my food and thank the animal where it came from. Animals, humans, anything, insects, all of us, we all come here for our purpose and our experience, whatever that is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm just reminded of.
Speaker 1:You know, without the sustenance we wouldn't, many of us can't survive healthily and I have yes, I have seen many documentaries that for a while I'm like I can't eat any meat and or meat products or any of it.
Speaker 1:I am in flow when I go out and I know from my body, just innately, that you know that the meat protein works for me to keep me healthy as well.
Speaker 1:But you know, I always try to make sure that I am in gratitude for the whole process. You know that that happens with mostly with all my food, but specifically animals, because I believe there's a different level of sentience there. And so you know I'm glad that you brought it up and had didn't have an idea we were going to go this way in this conversation. But the truth is, if we can all have a sense of gratitude for the part that animals play in our lives, like any sentient being plays in our lives, like I'll work on the insects, I'll be honest, I'm going to work on wasps and creepy crawly things that gross me out for my own fears, because I don't want to be bitten. But there is something to be said that you know, if all your part in, in in releasing control is being grateful for the gifts that it brings, then that's like so great for your own frequency and the frequency out there in the world, because there's so much that can be done, um differently yeah.
Speaker 2:And it changes everything.
Speaker 1:It does?
Speaker 2:It really does change everything. It changes how it affects your body and how it affects literally everything. You know my, I come from Pennsylvania, so there's a lot of hunters and I asked my nephew you know my, do you bless the deer to bless the animals that you hunt? And he's like, over time I think that animal I bless it and, you know, give gratitude. So I'm like, okay, just have a chat.
Speaker 1:If you look at the Huh, we could talk about this forever. But I will say one thing before we kind of round up our conversation is, if we go back and we look at the indigenous communities and how they have really the care that they put into their hunting and the processes that they used or they still use to this day, we could learn something from that for sure. I think that there's something we can learn because they need the. You know they need a lot of that for well, culturally and for sustenance maybe not as much as they needed it back in the day, but still it's. It's really important to see that there is a way that we can find some compromise and can and compassion and congruency for the animals that we serve. They don't need us. Let's just remember that the earth and the animals, they don't need human beings, they get them.
Speaker 1:They will survive plenty without us. Just see what happened over coven and you will see that you know where we can learn a lot from that and I think who with. With that, we're going to wrap our conversation up. It was such a beautiful conversation, angela. Thank you so much for your time and your wisdom. I learned a lot today in this conversation and so you are obviously available to find on the miracles director. You're the miracles director for both people who are looking for healing for themselves and looking for healing for their animals. Is there any other way we can? We can connect with you.
Speaker 2:You can find my website. It's Angela, as my mom would spell it, angel with an a. And the last thing is people get that confused. So it's Z is in zebra. I'm funny. I had my sister. I saw her not long ago and she was laughing. She's like you do that too. Z is in zebra, e Y N. So it's Angela zanecom.
Speaker 1:Well, once again, thank you so much for your time. This was such a great conversation and if you like what you heard, please comment, please share. This is going to be, you know. I think listening to this will be a game changer for some people. So thank you so much.
Speaker 2:You're so welcome. Thank you, it was wonderful talking to you.
Speaker 1:Thank you.
Speaker 2:Thanks.
Speaker 1:And you have the power to transform your life in profound ways. Stay curious, keep exploring and never stop believing in your own capacity for healing.
