Healers Talk Healing Podcast
The Healers Talk Healing podcast invites you on a transformative journey towards holistic healing, where we explore the mind-body connection, natural remedies, and ancient wisdom to empower you to live a vibrant and balanced life. Join us as we share inspiring stories, expert interviews, and practical tips to help you unlock your true potential and embrace a happier, healthier you.
Healers Talk Healing Podcast
Peeling the Layers of Emotional Healing: A Heartfelt Dialogue with Alanna Carr
Embark on a journey of profound healing and self-discovery with our guest Alanna Carr, a survivor of childhood abuse who has transformed into an empowered healer. Together, we navigate the intricacies of Emotional Freedom Techniques (EFT), Reiki, and other forms of bioenergy healing that have been pivotal not just in Alanna's life, but in the lives of countless others. Our conversation uncovers the multi-layered process of healing—much like peeling an onion—to reveal the core of our emotional well-being.
Reflecting on my personal path, I open up about the non-linear nature of healing and the resilience it requires to face recurring patterns that can sometimes halt progress. We discuss the importance of a strong support network and the therapeutic power of the relationships we forge along the way. As Alanna and I converse, we also delve into the transformative potential of becoming a healer oneself, a journey of growth that often springs from our own quest for solace and understanding.
Closing our heartfelt exchange, we touch on the transformative power of the 'even though' statement in EFT, a mantra of self-acceptance that can bring about significant emotional change. We discuss the intertwining of positive affirmations with the physicality of acupressure, leading to deep, transformative healing. Our dialogue serves as a reminder that continuous self-reflection and a nurturing intention are the bedrocks of a true, meaningful recovery. Join us in this intimate discussion and tap into your own healing potential.
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Welcome to Healer's Talk Healing, the podcast where we gather to explore the art and science of holistic healing, uncovering the secrets to a happier, healthier you. I'm your host, nina Ganguly, and together we will delve into the intriguing world of holistic healing, delving into the mind-body connection, ancient wisdom and natural remedies. Get ready for enlightening stories, thought-provoking expert interviews and practical tips that will empower you to unlock your true potential and embrace a vibrant, balanced life. Whether you're an experienced wellness enthusiast or simply curious about the power of healing, join us on this exhilarating journey as we share the wisdom and insights that can truly transform your life. It's time to embark on a voyage towards a happier, healthier you. So, without further ado, let's dive into the captivating world of Healer's Talk Healing.
Speaker 1:Join us in this enlightening episode with Alana Carr, a beacon of hope and transformation in the realm of emotional and energy healing. Alana, a survivor of childhood abuse, has not only navigated her path to healing, but also acquired significant training and certifications to empower others on their journeys. She is a certified EFT Emotional Freedom Technique and TFT Thought Field Therapy Practitioner, a Reiki master, and has attained level 2 in bioenergy healing. Her story is a testament to the power of resilience and the profound impact of alternative therapies on mental and physical health. If you're seeking alternative pathways to overcome personal challenges, manage stress or find a deeper emotional balance, alana's journey and expertise offer invaluable insights. Whether you're curious about tapping energy work or simply looking for inspiration to embark on your own healing journey, alana's experiences and guidance provide a compelling and educational perspective. This episode is for anyone ready to explore the depths of their own healing potential and discover effective strategies for emotional and physical wellness, backed by Alana's comprehensive training and certifications. So don't miss out on this transformative conversation with Alana Carr.
Speaker 1:I am super excited. I've already started laughing. Our preamble is always so interesting, but I am excited for this episode to have one of my besties on. Yeah, all my besties are healers, so they're all going to be on this episode. Not on this episode. Let's take that back On one of these podcast episodes, and that's just the way we roll. So with me I have Alana Carr today, and you heard all of her magicness on our preamble and the pre-recorded part. So, alana, as I ask all of my guests, what is your definition of healing?
Speaker 2:Well, first of all, thank you. I'm so happy to be here with you, nina. And aren't we lucky that all of our besties are healers, right? Yes, we are Very blessed. Yes, absolutely. So.
Speaker 2:My definition of it's such a good question. It's not something that I've really thought of with intention. What is my definition of healing? But my experience of healing is that it's a journey, and I think healing is different for everybody. That's why I think I don't have a specific definition of it, because it does show up differently for everyone or different people. But I definitely think that the commonality is that it's a journey for everyone and it's like peeling an onion.
Speaker 2:I know it's an analogy that's used a lot, but it's exactly what it is. You deal with what's on one layer and you're like, okay, I can process that and let it go, let go of the emotions and the heightened emotions. I want to say I was going to say drama, the drama of it, but I feel like that's a bit of a judgment, you know. But that's like the, because I mean me, when I look at myself and the things that I've healed in my healing journey. When I look back on it, I'm like, oh yeah, that was drama, the way I felt about it and the intensity and my willingness to let it go and all of those things that were like I was so invested in those experiences or whatever those things that I wanted to heal. It took a little bit to let it go. And so I think, really it's a process of, I think, first acknowledging what's there first has to start with the recognition yeah, oh, here's a pattern I'm repeating. You know, it's like this thing, oh, here, this thing is again. Why am I feeling this way again? Why am I dealing with this thing again? And then it's, like you know, giving words to it, acknowledging it, like defining what that thing is, and then going through all of the emotions and feeling the emotions and letting them pass through my body and kind of make peace with it, right.
Speaker 2:But when those feelings come up again, or if they come up again, I don't have to be hooked by them, right, I don't have to engage in them and experience them in the moment, as if I'm reliving the original thing that caused me to feel that way. So then you can, I could. Just I find, like the things that I feel like I've healed are those things where they don't disappear completely, but which I wish you know where's my brain? That's like come on, yeah, why isn't it gone and just deleted, like you know when you delete something on your computer, right.
Speaker 2:But I've made peace with the fact that things will trigger those emotions or that feeling again. But I don't have to revert back to you know, acting whichever age I was when those things were happening in like in the first place, I can actually just be with okay, oh right, this is what's triggering this. This is why I'm feeling this way and kind of use the tools that I have to like be with the emotion of it and then let it go. So I think that's actually I think that's what my definition of healing is. It's like processing and then letting go.
Speaker 1:It's. I mean, everybody has their sort of similar, I think, version of that and I would agree that there's the onion. And you know, it's funny that when I heard you say onion this time because we've talked about this a gazillion times before without pressing record for everyone to hear if only they could all hear our private conversations about healing and the journey yes, because the journey, from my experience, is not always enjoyable when we're going through healing but what came to mind is like, yeah, we say like onion layers and also all the tears that come with it, yes, and the journey of healing.
Speaker 1:A lot of people on the outside of our lives who watch our lives through social media, through a party, maybe, or a gathering. They see the put together pieces of us right, like I've. I did my hair, have my lips, I'm looking good, we're feeling good, everything's great. You don't see the I'm going to say painful parts of healing, because healing is not easy, it's not enjoyable. You know. You've seen me go through it, I've seen you go through it, and it's none of it is pleasurable until the aha and the peace comes. You're right.
Speaker 1:Until you say to yourself okay, well, that's not what I want anymore. Like, at some point you take control of the intensity of the drama I would say drama too, because, well, I'm a drama queen, right? So, yes, of course it's dramatic and also the like I don't, this is not what I want. And then trying to, like you know, change the not what you want to what you want. So what is it that you do want? Because many of us walk around in the world I don't want this, you know, and we don't want to feel those feelings. No.
Speaker 1:And then? So then the journey is no the resistance of it all.
Speaker 1:Yes, it's so funny that you brought this up about processing and the process itself, because I was at a recent to get together and I was talking about processing, like processing of. I don't know how I got into this conversation with somebody, but I was talking about it and the one thing she said to me is like, yeah, I'm not ready, I'm not, I'm not ready and I don't even know if I'm even interested in processing, but it's, it's. It's so funny because, oh my God, I'm going to sound like a soapbox creature but like, seriously, the cost of not processing, oh, you know, you know what I was talking about. It, as you know and the listeners, I don't know what order our episodes are going to come into, but I dealt, I dealt in the past six months with a lot of body pain and then I had an energetic healing and that body pain really just disappeared after I understood that years and years and years of not processing and not all of it is not intentional, right, like all of it.
Speaker 1:It's not intentional that we're not processing, right, something's just. You're just. You're not aware that it's. I'm doing this as if the listeners can see what I'm doing, right, but if you watch on YouTube, but you know like they just bypass you and all of a sudden something comes up and you're like, oh, okay, you know, and that uncomfortable feeling comes in from processing it, knowing who you are at the moment, and the whole onion thing about well, you thought you dealt with that, well, I thought that was that was done. Yeah, and I agree with you a thousand percent. The journey of healing is I don't think it's ever done, because there's always going to be a certain level of that I'm gonna say stuck, stuck into your walls and to the cells of who you are, because part of it makes you who you are.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. Your brain gets wired during these, you know, a certain way, during these experience, like during your lifetime and your lifetime is made up of all these experiences that you've had Good and not so good, right, so that's what I had to come to terms. I struggled with that on my journey of for a long. I used to make me so angry because I'm like, ah, I'm dead with that. Why is it back here, you know? And it's like I had to really, just when I came to really understand how the brain works right, and I'm like, oh, it's just a worn in pattern, right, it's like it's many years of that pattern working. It's like it's strong, and so it's like, okay, that's how my brain is wired. So now, what? Now, what do I do with that? Right, but I think the fact that I could recognize that it was so it's my brain, it's not something that's like defective in me. I used to think that, like I'm not doing this healing thing, right, right.
Speaker 1:What's wrong, not doing it right. I'm not meditating right. I'm not healing right.
Speaker 2:Right, it's like my brain's still doing this thing, Like I'm not doing it right. What's wrong? Because that's always where my brain goes. What's wrong with me? I must be doing it wrong. And so once I realized how the brain works right and like how it gets put together and how it develops, it gave me a lot of like breathing space, Just like. Oh, it's not, there's nothing wrong with me, it's just the way my brain was made. Right, like it's just the way my brain was made.
Speaker 2:Would I like it to have been made differently? Sure, but then, like you said, I wouldn't be who I am right now if I, you know, if it was wired differently. Right, so I can. It does really just give me peace, some like. Sometimes it takes me a little to remind, to remember, right Right now, but I can recognize it a lot faster than what I used to be able to, and then let it go and be like okay, just breathe, there's the key, I think, right there is this similar kind of thread throughout every conversation I have with all of the, you know, the healers that I've been speaking with is that it's the recognition a lot faster.
Speaker 1:It's not like all of a sudden we're some magical, like this doesn't impact me, okay, it's more like this is taking me out, but how long am I gonna let it take me out? For Exactly An hour a day a year, you know, like how long is this gonna impact me? And what tools? What tools do I have now in my toolbox to use, and usually immediately, you know, just for the listeners to share with you, usually immediately. You don't go into like fix mode, You're more like suck em up. Yeah, Then your brain does in the moment, you know, and you're feeling and you're dealing and you're angry, or you're not angry, or you're upset or sad or whatever happens in the moment. That's okay. That's okay because you and I are special people that then make all of that wrong, yes, so then the more cursing comes out you're mad at the situation. Then you're mad that you're mad at the situation.
Speaker 2:Yes, absolutely, yeah, yeah. And then I'm mad at my brain for reacting in the way it's doing.
Speaker 1:And yeah, and, thank God, you and my tribe are one of my tools. It's like you know how Michelle Obama in her book I can't remember the name of the book the Light Within you or something about like that one where she talks about her kitchen table, yes, and so you know, I think it's so important to have a support system in place, whether they're your sole tribe, which you know has taken us some time to put together and find or it's a healer, or it's a therapist, or a doctor, or you know an animal something to help you cope with the things that you're going through. I think it's really important and I think, from everyone that I've spoken to that have become healing practitioners, there's a journey that they've taken and it's like, more than not, more likely than not, one of the tools that they used is like, oh, this really works. You know, we kind of latch onto it and we wanna, you know, immerse ourselves into it, and I'm just trying to segue into, of course, you know, what led you to where you are now.
Speaker 2:It's funny exactly what you were just pointing to my healing journey. I mean, I'm about to be 40, what I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna claim it 40 something, that's all I gotta say. And you know, I think my healing journey started in my 20s. I think I'm gonna be able to do it.
Speaker 2:I think I'm gonna be able to do it. I think I'm gonna be able to do it. My healing journey started in my 20s. I had a. I went through a depression and like couldn't get out of bed, just barely existing kind of depression, and I couldn't think my way out of it, you know. And I mean I was able to, I mean I was able to work, I was working, you know, but that was about it. That took everything in me to like get out of bed and go to work and then come back home. And it wasn't until I had thoughts of harming myself that I realized, oh wait, there's something really wrong here. Right, and luckily, I immediately called my like. I immediately called my family doctor and was like I need help. I, you know, I just figured she's, I just figured she would know a therapist or would guide me in some way, and she did. And so my first person that you know my that started my healing journey was therapy, my therapist, and she was excellent, she was, it was wonderful, and that worked for a while and I went on my merry way and you know, didn't, you know, go through that kind of depressive episode again. I always had some anxiety. You know that I kind of trying to figure out how to like manage that or whatever.
Speaker 2:And then, like in my 30s, late 30s, I discovered, you know, personal development courses, and that's when I really dove into this journey and I think that's where it started. I was just like what is this? It was like mind hacking. It was, like you know, I never like it's. It really started with like shifting your mindset. What that was, that was like new concept, right, but the difference it made in being in, like allowing me to let go of some of these things that I was like really hanging on to and to let go of it quickly, like I was like what? Like it was like it almost seemed magical at the time. I was like, how is that possible? Now, I mean, there are certain things I like really hung on to. You know, it didn't just who disappeared, it was many years, but there was those like tools that were there to to like to trigger that let go right. And then I realized, you know, I wasn't hanging it on for it for years. I was maybe hanging on for a month, or then it became like two weeks. I was hanging on to it, then a week, you know. So it just kind of shortened that interval, being able to let things go and kind of work through it. But with that I also felt there was something missing, like that was very much action drip, like it was action oriented, like don't sit in your feelings, don't really, don't really like you know who cares, like not who cares about your feelings. But it was like okay, great, now what are you going to do? Oh, you're great, what are you going to do, you know? So it was all very action oriented, which was great in the moment, but I realized over time that I'm like there's just something missing there. And and then that's when I I think I discovered Reiki.
Speaker 2:First, I think it was Reiki, I think it was our friend Liliana Um and she one day I was actually had a physical pain and she put her hand on me and I was like immediately felt like there was stars and sparks shooting out of my arm and I was like what are you doing? What's happening? Are you shooting energy through me? Like what's happening? And she's like I'm just doing Reiki on you. I'm like, okay, and I felt the benefit of you know, there was a less pain in my arm where she you know where she was doing Reiki. So that's kind of triggered my oh, what is this energy thing? Let me go figure that out. I want to learn more about that.
Speaker 2:And um, and then through yeah, through taking courses in Reiki, that I was kind of like oh, I feel like this calls to me. You know. It was like oh, I think I think this is something that is kind of cool that I can do, that I want to do that. You know, I want to like learn as much as I can about it. Um, and then through that I started, I learned more like energy healing from Yvonne.
Speaker 2:Um, so it's like a combination of of Reiki and energy healing, um, which is so. It was like it was all this. You know, this is the world of energy and I and and um, and it just felt safe, like it felt safe. It felt like it's something I recognized. What's on the tip of my tongue is like that. It felt like home and I feel like that might be an overstatement, but it felt very comfortable and that it was something I was supposed to do. I don't know, maybe it's a calling. I guess that's a calling, right, I don't know, I guess that's a calling, but you know, I saw the benefits that I know. I felt the benefits for myself, right, and that's what triggered me to like, oh, I won't need to go learn about this more. And then EFT, so emotional freedom technique, or tapping I had heard about tapping years ago, like when Oprah had somebody on doing tapping, and I was like huh, and I'm like I don't know about that, you know, but I just wasn't ready to receive it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the world of woo, right. What is that from coming from two very logical people?
Speaker 2:Yes, oh, I should. Yes, I have a science degree. I'm very give. Show me the proof.
Speaker 1:And I don't have a science degree. I didn't have my degree in psychology, but you know I went in for business. But yeah, you and I would say are very logical people, so there has to be some sort of explanation that makes sense. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm saying this for the listeners, because seven years ago, if you told me about Reiki and EFT and all of those things, yeah, so I'm going to see a therapist. Absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 2:And what's weird for me is that, like, when I think back, as a like when I was a kid, I I believed in like woo stuff. Like I wanted I wanted to, you know, read tarot and I wanted to. You know, I don't know if I want, I didn't want to see dead people, but I did not want to see that, but like I just I wanted to have like a psychic ability, like I wanted, like I just thought that was so cool, right, and anyways. But yeah, you know, I that had this analytical, logical side to me that I was kind of like so as much as so. I had like part of me believed in it, but part of me was like maybe you need some medication for that instead, right, yeah.
Speaker 2:But yeah, I really I kind of was the proof was in the pudding. Like I experienced it. Eft, I think I'm trying to think of the first time I experienced. I think it was at the retreat that we went to, okay, and I was with Ivan, that Ivan and Daniela were were hosting and they did a session of tapping and I just like immediately was like, oh, this is it, this is the stuff right here, because it was. I never experienced like the feelings that I had and like what it brought up for me, like deep seat, like deep stuff.
Speaker 2:Memories from like when I was teeny, tiny, that I stopped writing in the background, I had no idea, but just brought it right to the forefront and I was like, oh, that is why I do X, y and Z, right, like it just brought it right up to it, but it did it in such an easy, comfortable way. It wasn't like there was no like major emotional upheaval. I mean, that was my experience, right, it would just seem so, like all I was doing was tapping on different parts of my face and you know, and I was like okay, and then this thing, you know, oh, okay, right, so that kind of started. It was like I need to. I need to train in this. I need to, I need to learn more about this. I need to do this more because let's talk about this.
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Speaker 2:This is something that is kind of cool that I can do, that I want to do that. You know, I want to like learn as much as I can about it. And then through that I started. I learned more like energy healing from Yvonne, so it's like a combination of of Reiki and energy healing, which is so. It was like it was all this, you know, this, the world of energy and I and and it just felt safe. Like it felt safe, it felt like it's something I recognized.
Speaker 2:I was on the tip of my tongue is like that. It felt like home and I feel like that might be an overstatement, but it felt very comfortable, right, and that it was something I was supposed to do. I don't know, maybe it's a calling. I guess that's a calling, right, I don't know, I guess that's a calling. But you know, I saw the benefits that I know. I felt the benefits on my for myself, right, and that's what triggered me to like, oh, I won't need to go learn about this more. And and then EFT, so emotional freedom, technique or tapping. I had heard about tapping years ago, like when it Oprah had somebody on doing tapping and I was like huh, and I'm like I don't know about that, you know, but I just wasn't ready to receive it.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah. What is that from coming from two very logical people?
Speaker 2:Yes, oh, I should. Yes, I have a science degree. I'm very. Show me the proof.
Speaker 1:And I don't have a science degree. I have my degree in psychology, but you know I went in for business. But yeah, you and I would say are very logical people, so there has to be some sort of explanation that makes sense. Yeah, yeah. I'm saying this for the listeners, because seven years ago, if you told me about Reiki and EFT and all of those things, yeah, so I'm going to see a therapist. Absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 2:And what's weird for me is that, like, when I think back, as a like, when I was a kid, I I believed in like woo stuff. Like I wanted I wanted to, you know, read tarot and I wanted to. You know, I don't know if I want, I didn't want to see dead people, I did not want to see that, but like I just I wanted to have like a psychic ability. Like I wanted, like I just thought that was so cool, Right, and anyways. But yeah, you know, I, I that had this analytical, logical side to me that I was kind of like so as much as so, I had like part of me believed in it, but part of me was like maybe you need some medication for that instead, right, but yeah, I really, I kind of was the proof was in the pudding. Like I experienced it EFT I think I'm trying to think of the first time I experienced. I think it was at the retreat that we went to with Yvonne, that Yvonne and Daniela were were hosting and they did a session of tapping, and I just like immediately was like, oh, this is it, this is the stuff right here, because it was.
Speaker 2:I never experienced like the feelings that I had and like what it brought up for me, like deep sea, like deep stuff. Memories from like when I was teeny, tiny, that I you know they'd stop writing in the background, I had no idea, but just brought it right to the forefront and I was like, oh, that is why I do X, y and Z, right. Like it just brought it right up to it, but it did it in such an easy, comfortable way. It wasn't like there was no like major emotional upheaval. I mean, that was my experience, right, it would just seem so, like all I was doing was tapping on different parts of my face and you know, and I was like, okay, and then this thing, you know, oh, okay, right, so that kind of started. It was like I need to, I need to train in this, I need to, I need to learn more about this, I need to do this more because let's talk about this, this, what it actually is, how it works and like what the benefits are, because I have experienced it same as you.
Speaker 1:It started, I think I think it did start at the retreat that we both attended with one of the healers that is also on the miracles directory, yvonne Montez, and then I actually had a session with you, and that was for now. I actually had a session with Daniela first. That's right, I forgot about that. I had a session with Daniela first, and in that session it was the first time I was able to see myself in my body, the way my body looks now. So I struggled.
Speaker 1:I always struggled with. You know, I was a thin person all the way into my early 20s and then I slowly started gaining weight and now I know it was through it. Why?
Speaker 1:You know, and why it's still you know, something that I'm working on, but I got to like close my eyes and see myself, as I am now not this thin 20 year old, trying to achieve this thing. That may or may not be achievable, and it gave me and the reason I'm sharing this is so the listeners can hear the benefits and then you can go in and give them the technicals behind it but it really had me. It had me come together I don't know how else to say it. I was no longer Nina at 20 and then Nina well, I think it was about maybe a little over 50 when I did my first, when I experienced it first, and then when I worked with you, we were working on like the sweets and it worked for a while until I was like, yeah, I'm just gonna eat them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean it's something that has to. It's one of those things, like any tool, is that you have to get to keep. You have to keep doing it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you have to practice, right, Like I mean, at the end of it, you keep practicing, Like yoga. People get yoga as a practice. So is life, by the way? You don't just live one day and then you're done and you're gone.
Speaker 2:yeah, it is all. Yeah, all of it is a practice. And so, yeah, what EFT is? For those who don't know, it stands for Emotional Freedom Technique. A lot of people know it as tapping, and it's a series of. So you're tapping on sorry, I don't like, how do I explain it? You're tapping on various acupressure points.
Speaker 2:So, on your hands, you can tap on your fingers and then around your face, your neck, your kind of upper torso and your head, and it does the acupressure points have to do with your energy meridians, okay, so it gets those in balance. So a lot of times, sometimes the energy's flowing backwards on those meridians, which is not supposed to do that. So the tapping internalization, the tapping interrupts that and then gets it flowing the way that it's supposed to. Now you don't necessarily feel like anything's happening when you're tapping, although sometimes when you tap on some points, some of the pressure points, they can get tender and that usually is an indication that there's some stuck energy there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, sinus. I'm pulling my face because I get sinus infections so much.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's funny, me too, and I do. Yeah, that's if I'm feel anything when I'm tapping it's like, oh, there's a spot right there and there's a spot on my hand that's always tender. I'm like what's going on there and what it does is okay. So here's the funny thing. So we were just talking about how I'm like very analytical and show me the proof. It's not surprising that I'm drawn towards EFT, because it is one of the modalities that has been studied extensively.
Speaker 1:Yes, it's one of the number one things they use for PTSD, ptsd, yeah.
Speaker 2:So there's a lot of scientific proof, scientific evidence of how it works, and they found in the studies that, yes, depression, ptsd for short, it's one of the best things for PTSD. So in my mind, it's one of the best things for healing. We may not all have PTSD, but there are things that we're hanging onto, are trauma-based.
Speaker 1:Yeah and I think, if we were, to charge out of that word trauma, because I think that word is so charged we think, oh, I don't have trauma, I just have. Oh, someone said this to me when I was 12 and I never recovered from that. Those are traumatic situations. Yeah, trauma. There's a range, range of, I would say, severity in the effect that it has, yes, yes, so that's what I'm saying, is that that's what I loved about Reiki as well. There's not as many scientific studies, but there's lots of studies, but for EFT.
Speaker 1:There are a lot of studies and when I took my trauma-informed certificate, that's one of the techniques that they teach in a very simple short like. It was literally like here, we're gonna teach you how to do this in 10 minutes. Okay, great, great and I'm like yeah.
Speaker 2:I need a little bit more than 10 minutes. Yeah, it's not 10 minutes.
Speaker 1:But so go on with what you were saying.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no worries. So yeah, what they found was not only was it, it's an effective modality to treat depression and PTSD and anxiety, sleep deprivation, there's a bunch of things that like, because it's all, it's kind of all of those things that trigger your fight or flight. Oh my gosh, I'm blanking.
Speaker 2:I will respond right, the fight or flight kind of instincts. Instincts, yes, because it taps into your nervous system. That's what you're tapping on. You're tapping into your nervous system and allowing it to calm down. So you take it from like this really heightened space and very quickly you can calm yourself down and you get into that relaxed space. So you're not always in that like adrenaline pumping, I have to either run away or I freeze or punch somebody. Right, like those three things right, I think we can do all three Right exactly.
Speaker 2:And what was really cool about the studies because they compared it to people who were just doing talk therapy or therapeutic methods that the people in the study groups that were doing EFT, they saw benefits a lot longer, like many, many months later I think it was a year and a half later that they were still reaping benefits. They still were experiencing the benefits, compared to the group that was doing like more traditional therapies. So it's not a magic bullet, like there is no magic bullet, so there is some practice to it. But what I like about it is that it's also very easy to learn. It's complicated, you know. Once you learn the sequence, you have the sequence. Now it's just a matter of recognizing when you could use it right. And sometimes I still forget. It's like all right, I have this great tool and so I tap on myself. And it's funny that as a practitioner I still forget sometimes. But I like anybody, I get hooked into whatever's triggering me and then it's like, all right, oh, about your off? Cool, I have lots of tools, let's use my tools.
Speaker 2:And one of the things that I liked about or what I experienced with EFT I did a program and it was about weight loss and like cravings and all those things and the emotions around eating. And I did one session and I saw immediately my cravings for the thing that I'm obsessed with, which was gummy bears. I love gummy bears Really. It's bad, it's a bad thing, but I would crave them very intensely and to the point I couldn't ignore the craving, like I had to have it right and did some tapping on that and all of a sudden it was like I actually don't want these things and my bag of gummy bears sat on open. It sat open on my counter for months and I would see it every day and I'd be like. And I was like what is this voodoo magic? Now the effects eventually waned right, because I kind of went on to tapping for like different things.
Speaker 2:I didn't continue to focus on that one thing. So it's now one of the things I'm taking up again to like, because I get so excited and I'm like, oh, I wanna work on this, and then I wanna work on this and I wanna work on this, and so it's like practicing for myself intentionality of like. Let's just work on one thing now and you know, but I you know what I got out of tapping on that and I did some tapping on that with Daniela as well but it really brought up the subconscious, the what's operating in the background, and that's also one of the things they saw in the research is that it taps into the things that's running in the background. We have our conscious mind and that's only. It's like only 5%, right, like 95% of that's why we do the things we do and how we are is in our subconscious and we're not even aware of it.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, it brought up memories that I didn't even know. Like I was like, oh my gosh, like I was teeny, tiny and there it was. It was like, oh, I made a decision, or you know, what was happening was like oh, if I was only bigger or if I was. You know, if I weighed, if I was heavier, people wouldn't be able to invade my space and pick me up. Cause that was the memory, cause I was a very cute child and people like to pick me up, but I also was you know people, she was very cute.
Speaker 2:Thank you she was super cute as a kid and I mean I look at pictures of myself, I'm like, yeah, if I saw that kid, I'd want to pick her up too. She's so cute, I'd want to eat her up, right. But I was also a very shy child and I also picked up other people's energy. I realized that now looking back. So that's why I think I didn't really like to be around people a lot, but people used to like to pick me up all the time. The more I struggled, the more they thought it was cute, right. And so I remember it was through an EFT tapping session that I remember thinking, if I was only bigger, right, if I they were able to pick me up if I was only you know.
Speaker 2:And I think that started the my struggle with my way, because I thought of it as a good thing, right, as a child, not knowing, of course, the struggles that are how society views people, especially women with, you know, who have, you know, extra weight on their body. That's a whole other conversation. A whole other conversation. But you know, I think what I'm, what I'm clear for myself is that I would never have come up like that, would never have presented itself Like I don't think I would have. I can't think of any other modality that would have brought that to the forefront. It's incredible, right, and that just gave me a whole lot of space around myself and my body, because, once you know, right, Like once you know, like now, now you have a tool you discovered.
Speaker 1:It's like you know, when you go to like the archaeologist, they discover something about humanity. And you're like, well, once you know you can't undo it, Exactly Right. And once like so, once you've seen it, once it's come out of you know, in the courses that you and I have taken, once it come out of your blind spot and you can see it, you can't unsee it. And now you're, you're, you use the tools that you've learned so that you can I'm going to say, manage it, so you can manage it.
Speaker 1:You can manage it. You can come to like what you said at the beginning, come to a place of acceptance and peace with it and move forward. I mean, I, I, I saw those thoughts unfold that you're just talking about. I was in that conversation, not in the moment, but when you discovered and you shared it, your face just lit up because you got for yourself oh, oh, now I know how to protect myself in a way that's that's going to work, and how to let go of what a child's thoughts were to protect themselves. Cause we don't know, when we're kids we only have so much language and awareness, and I think we're very astute as children. It's just that we don't always have the language for it.
Speaker 2:Yes, and we also don't know the ways of the world Right. So we're very self.
Speaker 2:We're very self-centered. Children are very self-centered. That's what they know. They know themselves and their immediate family right, like their world revolves around themselves. So, um, when, when we make something meet like we, we think something's happening, you know, or we make it mean something and we think we understand it, we usually make it about ourselves.
Speaker 2:There's something wrong with me, there's something like you know that, look that, that you know that that person gave you or whatever probably was not even about you, but you saw it and you thought, oh, my God, are you thought, whatever right. And then you internalized it. And that's what kids tend to do yeah, um and yeah, and that yeah, when you said, you know you saw my face, I did. It gave me so much freedom because I made myself wrong, like for many, many years. Like why can't I like get a handle of this? Like, why can't I like I've accomplished many things, why I've been able to accomplish this goal?
Speaker 2:Um, but I realized I was, you know, my. I was protecting myself, um and my. So, instead of being mad at my I think I was four at the time, or five, my five year old self I appreciated I could, I could love. I just love her, like I could just love the decision that, like I. You know, instead of being mad at her like what's wrong with you? Why did you think I come on, you know, why weren't you smarter, come on Right, I could just see him like, oh, I got it. You know, it's like I was just trying to protect myself, right, and and so it just I could just exhale. You know, I was like a lot of exhale, like and and freedom in in that space and like in that knowing right.
Speaker 1:And I know that, um, there is EFT for children. I know that that's something that you're you're, you're passionate about supporting kids on their journeys of healing and feeling whole and complete at all times. Wouldn't it be this whole thing? Like this whole?
Speaker 1:when I say the whole thing, I'm talking about the whole gamut of of mindfulness and self-awareness and and having um, giving children the space to give them these tools when they're so young, uh is is is such a beautiful thing. Like I know, there are certain countries that kids and certain classrooms where they implement meditation, they implement, you know, eft, they implement those things, um, and so you know, I think that when we talk about healing because we're in a space in the world right now, as this is being recorded, where we need maybe in every time, I don't know, in every generation we've somebody has said we need a lot of healing, right, what the world needs now is love, sweet love.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, but that's I think that's. The problem is that we never actually get to that healing, which why it keeps we keep repeating the same patterns over and over.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, so I think this is the time. There's a a time like. We have a platform. It's called a podcast. You know, we have social media, we have places where we can have these conversations around, around healing, and not from a perspective of simply the woo-woo yes, there's nothing wrong with the woo-woo, by the way, kids, we live in the woo-woo, we are the woo-woo. You know it's like oh, look at this phone. Let's just pretend it's a calculator, let's just pretend it's something else. Yeah, it's so true. Let's just have fun and do crazy things and be happy and glorious. Yes, you know. And then, and then we grow up, we get much dulse and we become boring.
Speaker 2:Yes, we're told to grow up and to be more serious.
Speaker 1:Oh, yes, except for, like I'm trying to think about you and me being more serious, I mean yeah, maybe before we we met, we were more serious.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, we got all our seriousness out before we met.
Speaker 1:We got it out of the way, because we're just all a bunch of crazy nut heads and so and I'm saying that proudly, you know, without trying to offend anyone by calling ourselves nut heads it's because we are enjoying life and the gift, I think, of healing that's. That's like the gift of what you do for people, the gift that you provide in giving them the space Because when you go through EFT and you can anyone can Google it on the Internet what EFT looks like, what a session looks like. You know we're not going to get into it today because it's so easily searchable, but the one thing that I've walked away with the times that I've I've experienced it, is the acknowledgement of where you are now. Yes, I think that's the biggest gift and the that EFT can give you is, while you're tapping, one of the things you say is like, even though this is happening and I'm feeling like you know, I'm feeling this way about this person I'm going to do XYZ as you tap on the Meridians and I think that's it's. It's so simple.
Speaker 2:It is and what I love about you, you said that even though statement, it's like just for anybody who hasn't experienced it you start off with even though and yes, it's like I'm feeling XYZ, I love myself fully and completely. And you start there and many people are confronted and they have trouble saying that last part, but you know, it's like hold the space and it's like okay, it's okay, you don't have to believe it, just say the words as we tap. You know, but we all start there and I think that's a beautiful thing about EFT is that it like you said it, yet you said it acknowledges where you are and you know you make a declaration that you love yourself regardless. Right.
Speaker 1:That's the key. Key is to the kingdom of healing. At the end of the day, even if we want to call it forgiveness, we want to call it acceptance, we want to call it whatever we want to call it, but the core principle is love, Absolutely Like bringing love into the space. And I think when you are going through whatever it is you're going through and that is what you're continuously telling yourself Eventually over time, like you'll fake it till you make it man, it's very powerful.
Speaker 2:right, words are very powerful. And you know, I think we've all experienced it when you have, when you wake up and you are like your first thought is negative, you have, like the next thing you do, you get out of bed, you stub your toe, like you know, it's like a series of like negative things that happen and if you like, on those days where you wake up, you're like I feel good, oh, it's going to be a great day. It's like I feel like that's kind of how your day unfolds, right, so our words that we use are so, so, very powerful. And when they can be combined, with other things just amplifies that.
Speaker 1:I think that's like, that's it. It's harnessing the power for good. For good, yes, like it's true what you said and I think you know this is the. This is the great place to end our conversation, which is talking about harnessing what you're saying with the tools that you have. Bring them together Like that's what you have to use. So that's where it's so powerful, because you are harnessing and changing. You're not necessarily changing what you're saying. It's like I said, but I'm just going to repeat myself. It's acknowledging and then you know, saying, giving yourself an affirmation to couple it so that your, this, your brain waves start to change. And then you know, the, the, the points on your body start to change, the acupressure points. There it's, it's beautiful when you have that marriage and that partnership how can you go wrong?
Speaker 2:I mean, I don't think you can.
Speaker 1:There's no, as long as you're using everything for the, the intention, a loving intention, of healing, yes, I don't think you can go wrong and I just want to say thank you so much, alana, for spending time with me here today, for doing what you do for people through the. You know the healing that you take them through. I've experienced it myself, so I know what a pleasure it is working with you, and the follow-up that you do is wonderful. Not everyone's, not everyone follows up. That's not just because I'm your friend. I know you do that for everybody. I don't want your relationship. You're a friend.
Speaker 2:So no, I know it's true, but I do do that for everybody that I work with. I you know, yes, she does.
Speaker 1:And we're always on a continuous journey and with that, if anyone is looking to to reach out to you and work with you, you can find Alana on the Miracles Directory miraclesdirectorycom. Search Alana Carr. You will find her information and you can reach out to her from there. Thank you so much for spending time with me today, my wonderful friend. Thank you for joining us today on Healer's Talk Healing. We hope you've been inspired and empowered on your holistic healing journey. If you've enjoyed today's episode and want to continue learning and growing with us, don't forget to subscribe, follow, rate and review our podcast. Your feedback and support mean the world to us. Remember, healing is a lifelong journey and you have the power to transform your life in profound ways. Stay curious, keep exploring and never stop believing in your own capacity for healing.
